he best art often comes from the people who don’t quite fit in. The ones who color outside the lines, play offbeat notes, and follow curiosity instead of convention. Those are the artists As Many Weirdos As Possible celebrates — the ones who make the Northwest’s music scene feel alive, unpredictable, and proudly original.

In this episode of the Exploring Washington State Podcast, we talk with founder Rachel Crick and photographer Chris Pugh about the project’s mission to showcase the musicians who shape the Northwest’s creative identity.

A Space for the Unscripted

Rachel started As Many Weirdos As Possible as a simple idea: to highlight artists who don’t fit neatly into genres or expectations. What began as a photography project grew into a larger movement — one that honors individuality and champions self-expression in a region known for its independent spirit.

Through portraits, interviews, and creative collaborations, Rachel captures musicians who live and work outside the mainstream. Her work focuses on authenticity, not image. Each portrait feels like a moment of truth — a look behind the noise of performance into the heartbeat of creation.

Photographers like Chris Pugh have joined the effort, bringing their own perspective to the project. Together, their work documents a living history of Northwest sound and culture.

The Courage to Be Yourself

“Being weird takes courage,” Rachel shares during the episode. The Northwest has always been a refuge for the unconventional, a place where creative people can experiment without asking permission. From Seattle’s underground clubs to Spokane’s garage bands, this region has a long history of artists who proudly stand apart.

Chris sees that spirit every time he picks up his camera. Some of his subjects are full-time musicians. Others balance creative work with everyday life. What connects them is honesty — the refusal to chase trends or fit expectations. “You can tell when someone’s being real,” Chris says. “That’s what makes a photo, or a song, stay with you.”

Capturing a Community

What makes As Many Weirdos As Possible remarkable is not just the art, but the community it reflects. Rachel isn’t documenting from the outside; she’s creating a space for musicians to be seen as they are. Every portrait, every story, adds to a growing tapestry of Northwest creativity.

The project’s name might sound playful, but its purpose is intentional. It’s about inclusion, visibility, and pride in difference. Each new photograph becomes part of a collective statement: that the region’s creative strength lies in its variety and its refusal to conform.

Why Weird Still Matters

At its heart, As Many Weirdos As Possible is about freedom. The freedom to create without apology. The freedom to experiment, to fail, and to keep trying anyway. In a time when art often feels curated and polished, Rachel’s project reminds us that imperfection is what makes creativity real.

The Northwest music scene has always been a mix of sounds and stories — part grit, part grace. From Olympia’s punk roots to Bellingham’s indie spirit, from late-night basement shows to community festivals, the weird ones are the ones who keep pushing the culture forward.

If you’ve ever felt out of place, if you’ve ever created something just because you had to, or if you simply love the people who make this region sing in its own voice, this episode will resonate with you.

Listen to the full conversation with Rachel Crick and Chris Pugh on the Exploring Washington State Podcast, and explore the As Many Weirdos As Possible project for yourself.

Because in Washington, being different isn’t the exception. It’s the tradition.

As Many Weirdos as Possible Episode Transcript

Welcome to the Exploring Washington State podcast. My name is Scott Cowan, and I’m the host of the show. Each episode, I have a conversation with an interesting guest who is living in or from Washington state. These are casual conversations with real and interesting people. I think you’re going to like the show. So let’s jump right in with today’s guest. After much technical difficulty, we’re going to get this thing started. I am with Rachel Crick and Chris Pugh from as Many Weirdos as Possible.

Scott Cowan:

Thank you both for being patient. Welcome to the show.

Rachel Crick:

Thanks for having us.

Scott Cowan:

All right, so I’m just going to jump in. Rachel, I want. I want to Just give me. Give me 30 seconds background story about you. How. How’d you get to where we are today? Your life in 30 seconds.

Rachel Crick:

30 seconds. I might. I am from Seattle. I worked in the music industry starting in about 1987. 88. 1988. I. And then I still do stuff in the music industry.

Rachel Crick:

I had the idea for as many words as possible about four years ago, and here we are.

Scott Cowan:

All right, Chris, you get 30 seconds.

Chris Pugh:

Well, pretty good 30 seconds. Okay. I’m also from Seattle’s sort of, you know, sort of. I’ll just say an unnamed suburb south of Seattle. And I. I went to Evergreen State College where I studied interpretive dance. No, I didn’t. I did audience.

Chris Pugh:

Some audio engineering and film and weird stuff. And then I played in a bunch of bands. And I like photography. And at some point, Rachel asked me if maybe I would take some pictures with them. Is that 30 seconds?

Scott Cowan:

Here you go, man. See, that was awesome. All right, so, Rachel, four years ago, you get this idea, and was it to, like. Was it just, like, photograph a few weirdos and then it’s like a bunch of weirdos, and then you just decided to do as many as possible? What. What was the. How did we get here?

Rachel Crick:

Four years ago, after a health crisis, I was thinking to myself, what is my legacy? And I started thinking about my passions, which were photography and storytelling and my past, which was working in industry. And I had the idea to take portraits of my friends and have them handwrite anecdotal narratives out on one piece of paper. And I would pair the portraiture with the handwritten anecdotes. And the idea was that I would do about 50 of them before I even told anyone what I was doing to make sure I was committed. And then I brought my. I told my friend Pamela about it, and she was in. And she was like, we’re not doing 50 of these. We’re doing 150 of these.

Rachel Crick:

And then every time we got close to being done, Pam was like, more. And so it just continued to grow with the name as Many Weirdos as possible came from a conversation that I had with Art Shantry, who I worked with at the Rocket. I asked him if he wanted to be a part of this thing that I was doing. And when he got on the phone call to learn more about it, he said, so, what’s the goal here? To photograph as many weirdos as possible. And we just. Myself and my. And Pamela and another photographer, Alex, who was on the project at that time. We just laughed and laughed and laughed.

Rachel Crick:

And we changed the name. It was originally ironic, iconic, and I changed it to as many. Well, we changed it to as many weirdos as possible. And then Art. Yeah, thanks. And then Art. Chantry very graciously designed the logo.

Scott Cowan:

So has it made it a difficult, quote, unquote, sales pitch to approach somebody and say, hey, you’re a weirdo. I want to photograph you? I mean.

Rachel Crick:

But no, I would say 99% of the time, no. There have been a few people who have declined because of the term.

Scott Cowan:

Really?

Rachel Crick:

Yes, really.

Chris Pugh:

So they declined. Was it along the lines of, like, I’m not weird. What are you talking about? Like, super defensive, or.

Rachel Crick:

No, let me see if I can find. There was.

Chris Pugh:

And also, can you tell us who. Who. Who declined? Can you give us any names? I want to know who’s not weird.

Rachel Crick:

Yeah, this guy Dave Blackburn declined. Dave. He went by Concave Dave back in the day, and he ran the. He ran the Beastie Boys store, extra Large and down in Belltown. It was a secondhand store down in Belltown. And he was also super into hip hop. And I was trying to find the email that he sent me where he said, oh, I am in the middle of a lifestyle brand launch, and I can’t get the weirdo part of my title.

Chris Pugh:

Hey, Rachel, is there any chance I could get a lifestyle brand launch also? I don’t know. Maybe you could look into it. I’ve been meaning to. I just don’t know if my brand’s as salient as it used to be.

Rachel Crick:

Okay, so Concave Dave passed, but there’s been a few other people, but that’s the one that I just know Dave. I know I knew Dave really well back in the day, and I know his sense of humor, so it just made me really laugh. It made me laugh when he said that.

Scott Cowan:

So, Chris, what was it like when they approached you and how they Quote, unquote. I’m making, you know, air quotes around the word sell you on the idea. What was, what was the pitch?

Chris Pugh:

Oh, no, no. I begged them to let me join. What are you talking about? They didn’t have to sell me. It was. I was. My career in photography was going nowhere and, oh, gee, somebody’s about to back into me, I think.

Scott Cowan:

So Chris is our first guest who’s participating in this interview from his car, folks. So if you hear a crunch, Will.

Chris Pugh:

Yeah, so, no, I. I mean, I started looking at some of the photography, you know, well, after they. They photographed me and then I don’t know what happened. Maybe we were out somewhere and I mentioned that I was also into photography. I like taking pictures. And then I. I think I. Maybe I shared with them like a portfolio website that I have, and they.

Chris Pugh:

They asked me if I wanted to take some pictures also. Something like that. Is that how you remember it, Rachel? Something like that, Yeah.

Rachel Crick:

I mean, Chris, from day one, we asked him if he would. Wanted to have his picture taken and, and be a part of the work that we were doing. And, and I think that he loved what we were doing and he was like, let me help you with this. And he was immediately connecting us with people that he knew to help get more people to be photographed. And then one day he said, hey, you know, I’m. I’m a photographer. I’d love to help. And.

Rachel Crick:

And immediately we were like, oh, my God, you’re a photographer. I absolutely. Come on. And the. One of the biggest pleasures that I’ve had doing this work is watching Chris’s work just grow and grow and grow. And I mean, he’s just a phenomenal photographer. It’s been really amazing watching his work.

Chris Pugh:

Well, thank you for giving me the opportunity because like I said, my career was going nowhere. Damn it.

Rachel Crick:

And now you’re a star, a superstar.

Chris Pugh:

I mean, it’s take. Well, it’s taken off a little bit. Know, at least. At least I get to see my. Some of my work printed, which never happened before. Also at that other show, that show the other day, I got two free drinks.

Rachel Crick:

Bonus being a weirdo photographer.

Chris Pugh:

So I’m just saying it. It is if things are happening. Okay.

Scott Cowan:

Who. Oh, my God, this would be awesome. Who was. Who was the first person that you approached and took the picture and got the narrative from?

Rachel Crick:

The first person that we photographed was Alice Wheeler, who was a photographer during that time and who has not quite yet given me her narrative. Oh, the first.

Chris Pugh:

She took a picture for creep. She took the COVID photo for one of our single on Sub Pop. She’s great.

Rachel Crick:

I didn’t know that.

Chris Pugh:

Yeah.

Rachel Crick:

I’m trying to think of who the person was, the first person was that actually gave. That gave. Gave me their story. You know, I don’t know if I remember who the very first story was, but the first person photograph was Alice.

Scott Cowan:

All right, and as we’re recording this in early November of 2025, how many complete photographs and narratives do you have?

Rachel Crick:

Over 300.

Scott Cowan:

Over 300. How many incomplete since we already know there’s one? Who else is missing their homework?

Rachel Crick:

Are we calling naming names?

Scott Cowan:

No, we’re not naming names.

Chris Pugh:

Just how many?

Scott Cowan:

You can name names if you want, but I’m not going to.

Rachel Crick:

We’re in the middle right now of organizing all of the work. And I met two young people recently, people who are younger than I am, who have just kind of jumped in and are helping. Their names are Eric and Sarah, and they’re helping me organize all of the files. And as we speak, my two enormous binders full of handwritten stories are being scanned. So. So I will know very soon, in the near future, how many stories I’m missing. But I believe that I am missing about 25 to 35 stories.

Scott Cowan:

Okay.

Chris Pugh:

Not surprised. The story’s the hard part. The picture is easy. Well, it’s not easy, but. Oh, that reminds me, I have loud story for you sitting on my desk.

Rachel Crick:

Excellent.

Chris Pugh:

He did. He did hand it over at the time of photographing, which is what they’re supposed to do. But some people have slipped through the cracks here. They forgot or they said they wrote it and they never really did. Yeah, weirdos. You can’t trust weirdos sometimes. You can’t.

Scott Cowan:

Yeah, just. You just can’t.

Chris Pugh:

What?

Scott Cowan:

Okay, so you’ve 300 and some. That’s. That’s a lot. How many more weirdos do you think are out there?

Rachel Crick:

I remember walking down the street talking in Belltown with Jared Lovejoy from Tasty Shows, and he said to me, you could probably get 500 people. And I thought to myself, hell, no. And here we are at over 320. We absolutely could keep going. The end goal of this has always been to produce a book. And so we’re already at a place where 300. A portrait on one side of a piece of a page of a book and a story on the other page of the book is a lot of pages in a book. So we’re already trying to figure out if it’s going to be multiple volumes.

Rachel Crick:

And at some point it just has to stop. Right. So there are a few key people that we’re still trying to photograph, but for the most part, the portraiture work is coming to it. Coming to a close.

Chris Pugh:

Okay.

Scott Cowan:

When?

Chris Pugh:

Well, guess my job will be done here.

Rachel Crick:

Your job is never done.

Scott Cowan:

So if you’re looking for a photographer, Chris is always available for freelance work. Look that look up Chris Pugh online, and he will help you with your photography needs in the greater Seattle area.

Chris Pugh:

There you go. I would. Yeah, no, that’s absolutely true.

Scott Cowan:

How do we determine where we’re taking these photos? Does. Does the. Does the weirdo say, I want you to take a photo of me here? Or is it kind of like, we want to do this here, or is it brainstorming? What do we do?

Rachel Crick:

Each person, when we approach them about having their portrait taken, we ask them to think of the location in the Pacific Northwest that specifically ties them to their history. It doesn’t necessarily have to tie them to the story that they’re telling us, because that is a little bit difficult with the disappearance of many locations. Okay, so we photograph from Olympia to Bellingham, and each person picks a location. So when you are looking at the portraits in a gallery or you’re eventually reading the book, you’ll see a caption underneath the photo that says where the photo was taken and why. That place is significant, which has also given us the ability to capture landmarks before places are destroyed, which we already have lost. A couple of places where we photographed, those places no longer exist. And we are also able to document little bits and pieces of the region that have a history specifically tied to music that may have not been documented in the past.

Scott Cowan:

Okay, Chris, this question’s specifically for you. Of the photographs that you take are the photographs you’ve taken. Where’s the coolest location that you took the photo at?

Chris Pugh:

I can’t remember most of the places. Wait a minute. I can do better than that. Well, I mean, they’ve been all over the place. Let’s see. Well, I really liked where I shot loud the other day. It was a park, and, well, he told me that he wanted to do it there. So there was a fence on the edge of the tennis court, which I liked.

Chris Pugh:

And then his story was that he’d climbed up the fence really drunk and fallen off and broken his leg. Well, that’s why he wanted to get the picture taken there. Okay, that doesn’t really answer your question, does it?

Scott Cowan:

No, it’s for insurance purposes. Maybe, you know, he.

Chris Pugh:

You know. Well, then he. Then he got pulled Over, I think on the. On the way to the hospital. But, yeah, I haven’t really. I don’t feel like any of the locations have been, like, you know, extraordinary. They’ve all just been, you know, relevant to that person and, you know, like, part of their memory. I think there was a back alley behind down on 2nd Avenue that was really cool.

Scott Cowan:

Where was yours taken at and why was it relevant?

Chris Pugh:

Well, we did a couple of them. One of them was Rachel. We did the one at Dick’s, but we couldn’t. It was at the apartment building I lived on on Capitol hill in the 80s. The Winters Building. It used to be called the Winters Building. Kitty corner to Dick’s. I was standing in the doorway.

Scott Cowan:

Yep, I’m looking at it right now.

Chris Pugh:

That apartment was $325 a month, and I shared it with my girlfriend. And on occasion, I rented out the closet to people.

Scott Cowan:

Okay, Rachel, how about you with the photos you’ve taken? Any locations pop to mind?

Rachel Crick:

I think one of the funnest shoots that I did was with Steve Manning, who I worked with at the Rocket, and he went on to work at Sub Pop. And his story is about seeing Bikini Kill play in the basement of St. Joseph’s Church up on the hill, and how it was the night before his sister’s wedding, and he was stage diving and he broke his arm. And the next day was his sister’s wedding. And so he lied to his family and told them that he was in a bike accident or something because he didn’t want his family to think that he was irresponsible for stage diving at a punk rock show in the basement of a Catholic church. And so we went to St. Joe’s and we were walking around the church, and I looked up at the church, and the windows are boxed in, so they’re set back within the building, so there’s ledges to the windows. And so I said to Steve, will you climb up the building and stand, jump off? And he was absolutely game on.

Rachel Crick:

And I would say probably 20 times, he climbed up the side of the building and launched himself off the side of the building. And I caught him mid air, arms and legs spread. And it is just. It’s one of my favorite photos. And it was just.

Chris Pugh:

Oh, I haven’t. I haven’t seen that one.

Rachel Crick:

It was at the show. It was at the show downtown, and it’s at. Up at the Crocodile right now. But. Yeah, but it’s such a fun picture in the story. It was just so fun. And every time he hit the Ground. He would tuck and roll.

Rachel Crick:

And then I called him the next day and I was like, hey, how are you feeling? It was like, oh, my God, are you sore?

Chris Pugh:

Yeah, I think I know Steve from Olympia. I think I might have known him way back in the olden days.

Rachel Crick:

Oh, maybe.

Chris Pugh:

I’ll have to double check on that.

Scott Cowan:

Rachel, not that you just on cue, my neighbor decides to start leaf blowing. So if you hear this background, it’s going to go on for the remainder of the show and the rest of my life. It’s four hours a day of gas powered leaf blowing. Rhonda. I’m going to butcher her last name. Pelican.

Rachel Crick:

Yeah, that’s right.

Scott Cowan:

What building is that in front of? It’s an old florist shop.

Rachel Crick:

Yeah, it’s Flowers. So it was. I mean, a long time ago it was a florist shop. And then in the 80s and 90s, it became a cafe and actually was still open when Rhonda and I took that picture. It was open forever. But then it closed. It closed for a bunch of. I think it was health violations and also some safety issues.

Rachel Crick:

Happened just a couple of years ago and they closed it.

Scott Cowan:

$5 mark.

Chris Pugh:

On the Ave.

Rachel Crick:

It was on the Ave. Yeah. I was like, yeah, 40th and 40th in university.

Scott Cowan:

Yeah.

Chris Pugh:

Yeah. When I first saw that place has been there forever. Yeah, was there forever.

Rachel Crick:

And that’s a perfect example because that is gone now. So Flowers no longer exists.

Scott Cowan:

Flowers is gone. And then Maurice Owens in front of. Is that the Tacoma Dome?

Rachel Crick:

Yeah. Yep.

Scott Cowan:

Okay. I see half of, you know, Taco, you know, so I’m guessing it’s Tacoma, right? Okay.

Rachel Crick:

Yeah. Maurice was in a band called High Performance. They were a hip hop band out of. Or hip hop act group out of Tacoma. And they were assigned to Nasty Mix. And they had a. A regional hit called do youo Want to Party. Um, and Marie’s, you know, the great example of someone who wanted to be photographed in Tacoma.

Scott Cowan:

Said nobody ever. I’m from Tacoma. I can say that.

Rachel Crick:

We’Ve done a few Tacoma shoots and a few Olympia shoots.

Scott Cowan:

Yeah, I mean, Olympia is fine. Tacoma, though. Just kidding, just kidding.

Chris Pugh:

I like Tacoma. Really?

Scott Cowan:

Why?

Chris Pugh:

It reminds me of Seattle like 80 years ago. It’s.

Scott Cowan:

That’s true.

Chris Pugh:

It’s got a certain vibe that you don’t really get in Seattle anymore. You know, it’s.

Scott Cowan:

Well, growing up there in the. Growing up there as a kid, I couldn’t wait to get to Seattle. Moved to Seattle after college. Loved living in Seattle. Loved, loved, loved Living there. Moved back to Tacoma in my mid to late 30s and couldn’t wait to leave again anyway. But I digress. This isn’t about me.

Scott Cowan:

There’s so many questions I could ask you about so many of these weirdos. But you mentioned a book. You’re doing events. This is a nonprofit thing. You really committed to this project. This wasn’t just, I’m gonna take some pictures. I mean, you really. Kudos to you committed to this.

Scott Cowan:

And you’re making something. And you use the word legacy when we started. So you are creating and capturing people who contributed to the fabric of our region. I think that’s awesome. Putting you on the spot. When’s the book coming out?

Rachel Crick:

So I mentioned earlier that we’re just getting the. Compiling everything, checking to see, like, who hasn’t signed a release, who hasn’t given us their story, who hasn’t given us their caption for the book. And all of that work is being done right now by two volunteers who are amazing and I’m so grateful for them and the stories are being scanned and all of that stuff. But once that’s all done, my plan is to reach out to the people who have yet to give me everything that I need and say, you have a month. And at that point, will, you know, your caption will. If we don’t hear from you, your caption will say this. And if we don’t hear from you, then we won’t have a story and it’ll be incomplete. And I don’t know yet what I’ll do for people who I haven’t gotten a story from.

Rachel Crick:

I’d like to include everyone anyways. Then the. All the files have to go to John Hubbard, who is a designer that’s putting the book together, and then we have to find a publisher. When is the book coming out? I would love for it to be done in the next two years because.

Scott Cowan:

Book publishing takes a while. Yeah, it absolutely does. All right. And how did we come up with the name Poser Productions?

Rachel Crick:

Oh, I had to get an LLC before we were a non profit. I needed a name of a. I needed to create a business name. And so I chose Poser Productions because it made me laugh.

Scott Cowan:

So I’m seeing that humor is important throughout this project to keep us motivated. Okay. Like it. All right.

Chris Pugh:

And.

Scott Cowan:

And we can gloss over because it’s super simple to get a nonprofit going. It’s super easy. You didn’t have to go through any. Any paperwork or any headaches to do all of that.

Rachel Crick:

Well, interestingly, what I ended up doing, which was really great, was becoming fiscally sponsored through an organization called Shunpike.

Scott Cowan:

Okay.

Rachel Crick:

They are the overarching umbrella that manages all of the paperwork. So I didn’t have to do all that. I didn’t have to put together a board. We don’t have to do any paperwork or anything like that. They are the ones that manage all of our finances, so I don’t have to be worried about that. And it’s been a really great relationship that we’ve had for the past three years, and it just got noticed that we’re up for renewal, which is awesome. And, yeah, it’s been a blessing to be able to rely on their services. They also help us with grant writing, and they help us with opportunities and classes and all kinds of things.

Rachel Crick:

So it’s really an excellent organization.

Scott Cowan:

And how did you find out about them?

Rachel Crick:

Google.

Chris Pugh:

I’ve heard of that.

Scott Cowan:

Just. Just once, I want somebody to say Bing. Just once, I just want somebody to say Bing. Just, just once. I’ve never. I’ve never heard.

Chris Pugh:

Never gonna happen.

Scott Cowan:

I know, I know, but I don’t. Don’t. Don’t random my parade, man. Come on. Where are they based out of?

Rachel Crick:

Are they Google or Bing?

Scott Cowan:

Some Pike.

Rachel Crick:

They’re here. They’re local. Seattle.

Scott Cowan:

I’ve never heard of them before, and I’ve never used Google to look at them. I’m scrolling their website right now, and I’m thinking this is a really kind of cool concept that they have to help out. This.

Chris Pugh:

All right.

Rachel Crick:

Yeah, they’ve got a lot of people that they support.

Scott Cowan:

Why did you decide? Most of us would have said, I just want to take pictures. Okay, they’re going to send Chris out. Chris, I want you to take these. These six weirdos photos. But the narrative piece. Where did you get the idea to do a handwritten? First off, kudos to you for making people actually write something, because if you asked me, you would never be able to read it because my hand, my penmanship is so bad, I could typ.

Rachel Crick:

But I can’t.

Scott Cowan:

I can’t write anymore.

Rachel Crick:

But.

Scott Cowan:

Yeah. Where did you get the. The. The idea to include these narratives?

Rachel Crick:

Well, when I started to think about this, there’s a lot of loss in this project. There’s the loss of the portraiture, the formal portrait. People now take selfies. And having your family portrait taken or having a portrait taken of you, that’s starting to be a lost art. The art of storytelling is also going in the same direction. Oral storytelling and handwritten narratives and things like that. And handwriting and cursive is so personal, and we’re losing that. Children are no longer taught cursive and handwriting in school.

Rachel Crick:

And so it’s another lost art. There are also losses in this, where we’re losing people and we’re losing places. So when I started thinking about the project and. Or the work or what I wanted to do, I knew I wanted it to be portraits, but I also knew that I wanted it to be stories. And so how do you combine the two? And it just seemed like they went hand in hand.

Scott Cowan:

I think. I mean, I really, you know, I think what you’re doing is. I can’t remember how I. I’ve been aware of it for a while.

Rachel Crick:

Right.

Scott Cowan:

I’m off and on. It pops into my periphery. I think my wife went to one of your events in Seattle. Like. Like I’ve said to both of you, I know. I know some of your weirdos, and they’re my weirdos, too. And I love the idea that you’re memorializing. I hate that word, but, I mean, I think it is.

Scott Cowan:

This will last longer than any of us, and I think that’s very important. And I think what you’re doing deserves. I can’t wait till you put it out in book form, frankly. I think that’s. Even though books are. Oh, I want to look at it online. We all want to look at everything. We all want to Google everything.

Scott Cowan:

Nobody wants to read, but yet this is a finished product of work. A body of work in physical will be very cool.

Rachel Crick:

A couple of things about that. So when we had our show at Basecamp Galleries in the old Bergman Luggage building last summer, people would come in and they would look at the stories and the pictures, and we got comments like, the portraits are beautiful, but it’s the stories that really made me. Made me think. They made me remember my own youth. They made me, you know, made me pause and think about things. And we had people that were reading the stories and getting emotional. Some people actually left in tears. We had people come back week after week.

Rachel Crick:

We were there for six weeks, and people would come back week after week to take time to read the stories. There were a hundred of them in the space. And I remember Charles Cross said to me, this is amazing, but I can’t stand on these cement floors and read all these stories. It hurts my feet. It’s meant to be a book, and so I’m very much looking forward to it being a book. These stories also are going to be preserved a second way, and that is at the University Of Washington Music Library has agreed to take the handwritten narratives and the portraits when it’s all done. So I don’t need to have three binders full of stories sit in my closet after this is done. So I’ll be able to take those and give them to the University of Washington.

Rachel Crick:

They’ll be preserved. Okay. Along with the portraits.

Scott Cowan:

Now, I want you to drop. Tell tales about your weirdos. Tell me some fun stories about some of these people.

Rachel Crick:

Chris, what do you got?

Chris Pugh:

Well, I don’t know. Got any. Can you give me any names?

Scott Cowan:

No. I want you to pick them.

Chris Pugh:

I can’t. My brain’s not good enough to just think of something. I don’t even. I mean, I’ve read a bunch of the stories, but I can’t really remember anyone in particular, if that’s what you’re thinking. Except the one I just told you about. Loud falling off the story.

Rachel Crick:

Tell us your story, Chris.

Scott Cowan:

Yeah. What’s your stuff?

Chris Pugh:

I can’t. I do. I can. I don’t know. What is it? Hang on. Wait, do you guys. Do you have it there? Rachel?

Rachel Crick:

I can pull it up.

Chris Pugh:

Did you open up your binder? No, it’s. What is it the one about Muzak?

Rachel Crick:

Yeah.

Chris Pugh:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So. Yeah. There was a time when I was working at Muzak, also known as Sub Pop’s unofficial shipping department and grunge incubator, Muzak Incorporated. So I think it has something to do with getting fired from there. I was.

Chris Pugh:

I was. Let’s just say I’d been warned several times about my wardrobe choices. And we’re working on a floor, a production floor. This. We’re not much. Not much interaction with the general public. But our manager wanted us to maintain a certain decorum that most of us were not capable of. But that said.

Chris Pugh:

That said there were some, you know, some violations that were probably more extreme than others. So I’d. I’d come to work with Holey Jeans, which was the fashion at the time.

Scott Cowan:

Right.

Chris Pugh:

And I think it was like some Holey Jeans. And there’s possible I had a pair of fishnet stockings underneath, actually, so that we’re showing to her, which was also. And he just. He. He said. He came to me and was like, chris, you know, we’ve talked about this before, and afraid I’m gonna have to let you go because of this. And I tried to explain to him that, you know, I hadn’t intentionally come to work like that. It was more likely the case that I was just wearing the same clothes that I’d had On the night before.

Scott Cowan:

And in an effort to get on to your job on time, you.

Chris Pugh:

Yeah, right, exactly. You know, I got. I made it to work okay. I thought. I think he should have been grateful for that. But then I got. So I got fired and I had to go get a job selling tokens at a strip club down in Pioneers. Down in.

Chris Pugh:

Down by the market.

Rachel Crick:

That was your next job after.

Chris Pugh:

After music? Yeah, it’s the only. Only place it would have me.

Scott Cowan:

Wardrobe wasn’t a problem there. I see. Okay.

Chris Pugh:

Yeah, they didn’t say much. Any felt, you know, just you had to show up on time and not. Not just not disclose the customers. I think there was certain confidentiality. You weren’t supposed to, like, talk about who you sold tokens, who. Who was coming through the door. Could have been people that you might have been a couple of people that I knew from around town. So.

Scott Cowan:

Okay.

Chris Pugh:

That’s still confidential. Not at liberty to discuss who they were. Of course, that’s less for money, and that’s for money.

Scott Cowan:

Okay.

Chris Pugh:

Yeah. I mean, it’s possible.

Scott Cowan:

Rachel, you’ve. You’ve reviewed these stories who share some snippets. What’s. What. What stands out to you?

Rachel Crick:

My favorite. I have some favorite stories. There’s a really great story by Kurt Danielson from Tad about how he and some friends, including Dan Peters, were walking home one night on the Ave. And they were approached by these guys who they said were, like, wearing weightlifting outfits, like, complete with the weightlifting belts on. Like, I don’t know why you walk down the street with that on, but whatever. And they were confronted by them. And then one of his friends got down on the ground and was like, rolling around or something and, like, agitating these guys, and they were like, come on, knock it off. And they got back to their apartment, and as they were trying to go into the apartment, the guys rolled up on them from behind and there was a fight.

Rachel Crick:

And Dan Peters went through the front glass window. And it was like a day or two or a week or something prior to Mudhoney’s first European tour. Like, broke it, like, dislocated his shoulder and just. But the way that Kurt tells the story is just really like, you just read it and you’re like, oh, my gosh, what is happening here? And then another great story is by Paul Sure. Who was the bassist from Flop. And his story is about. His story is just hilarious.

Chris Pugh:

I love his story. He was so great, too, when he stood up and basically told that story. He’s so funny.

Rachel Crick:

We had a storytelling at Storytelling event at Town hall. And Paul told his story. This was a couple of weeks ago October. And his story is about going to a show and at the let out, you know, yelling party at my house. And a bunch of kids go back to his house and they have this big party and the police come. They’re called for, you know, noise complaint. And when they come to the door, someone at the door flips the cops off and that pisses the cops off. And they break down the door and they come in and they drag everybody and they put them in a paddy wagon and they.

Rachel Crick:

They drive them down to the precinct or whatever. But on the way there, they’re turning the corners really fast and everybody’s falling all over each other and they’re laughing and cracking up. And they go to jail and they’re separated in jail. But while they’re in jail, Paul ends up learning how to play poker by whoever else is in the jail cell with him. Then everybody gets released and instead of going home, they all go to a barbecue where they just tell everyone about the night before and got out of jail. And then when they get home, their house is burning to the ground, like full on Firefox house burning to the ground. And the neighbor, Someone hears a neighbor say, well, that’s one way to get him out of the neighborhood.

Scott Cowan:

Oh my God.

Chris Pugh:

Good one.

Rachel Crick:

It’s a really great story.

Scott Cowan:

Oh, as I’m scrolling and I’m trying not to ask any like, specific questions about specific people, but I gotta ask on this one, on Cathy Faulkner. And you said that they contribute to where they wanted the location. Where on earth was that photo taken?

Rachel Crick:

Okay, so there are. Our photographer, Rosetta Grieg is also a. She’s an incredible artist. She does. She’s a painter and she’s a sculptor and she can. She makes all kinds of amazing things and she does. She puts together photo montages in using Photoshop. And so everything you see in Cathy’s photo is actually photographed by Rosetta.

Rachel Crick:

Rosetta is lucky enough to work at the Seattle Opera. And so some of the pieces in our work, just a handful, are a little bit more creative. And Cathy, her. Her radio name was the late Cathy Faulkner. And so we, Kathy. We came up with the idea of photographing Kathy in a way that. So people would think when. When people would call, hear them on the radio station, say the late Cathy Faulkner, people would send flowers to the radio station because they thought she was dead or whatever, right? So we had the idea of photographing her very much alive, but also, you know, looking A little bit like she could be dead.

Rachel Crick:

So that is what that photo is about. Which if someone’s listening to this, to me tell. This is. I’m doing a terrible job. But it’s basically her dressed all in black. And Rosetta was able to. She got permission from the Seattle Opera to use the clothing and the space to photograph Cathy. And then Cathy brought in a bunch of things from her career that she’s photographed with.

Rachel Crick:

In the photo, we were able to do a few of those kind of very creative montage type of works. Also, we did something similar. Rosetta did something similar with Jesse Higman, who was an artist back in the day. And she did something similar with Jerry Everard from. Who is co owner of Neumos, and with Carrie Akre, who was the former singer of Hammerbox and the Rockfords. And goodness. Those are all images that are beautiful pieces of art. I mean, all the photos are beautiful pieces of art, but those are just a little bit different.

Scott Cowan:

Yes, they are. One specific question about the Cathy Faulkner. She’s holding a picture in her arm. And I can’t really tell on my monitor, but it’s got to have something to do with Seattle. But I want to say it looks like Uncle Fester from the Addams Family. And I know that can’t be right, but do you know off the top of your head who that is?

Rachel Crick:

Yes, that is a program from Andy Wood. It’s a memorial service from Andy Wood from Mother Love Bone.

Scott Cowan:

Okay. And on my mantra, I couldn’t. Okay, that really ties in.

Rachel Crick:

And this portrait is. Has to do with Seattle. She’s surrounded by her record collection of beautiful albums and records that are all Seattle musicians. And this photo of the Space Needle in the background. And. Yeah.

Scott Cowan:

And Andrew woods, which, if I’m being very honest, I was staring at, trying to figure out what that photo was in the background, going, what is that? And then all of a sudden it was like, oh, that’s a Space Needle. That somebody’s done some manipulation too.

Chris Pugh:

Yep.

Scott Cowan:

I like the one that I kind of get a kick out of his Chris Swenson’s stand there.

Rachel Crick:

Yeah.

Scott Cowan:

Big. He’s in a suit with a vest, tie on, you know, with a cigar in his mouth. Where was that taken at, do you know? Off the top of your head?

Rachel Crick:

Yeah. So. And one thing I want to also make clear about the portraits that are on the website that are available to see right now. These portraits are what we call our secondary images. These are the portraits we’ve shared online and that we have. We’ve put on our social. They’re here on our website. But these are not the portraits that are going to be in the book.

Scott Cowan:

Okay.

Rachel Crick:

So there’s an entire second. There’s entire. Another set of images of all these people that will be in the book. The picture of Chris is. Was taken. So Chris was a welder while he was also making music and doing things. He was in Big Saint Nick and he was managing flop and. But he was a welder also.

Rachel Crick:

And so that portrait was taken in down in Georgetown area close to where his. The welding shop that he used to work at.

Scott Cowan:

Okay.

Chris Pugh:

Hey, guys, I’m going to have to sign off on this in about three minutes.

Scott Cowan:

Okay? So I got to ask you two questions. I got two specific questions for you that we kind of coached you on. There’s a great place to get coffee in Seattle. Vietnamese coffee in particular.

Chris Pugh:

Well, I go to Saigon, Delhi, 12th and Jackson. But now there’s two Saigon delis, so don’t go to the wrong one. Okay? Okay, this one is right across the street from TH Bach, the Vietnamese noodle house.

Scott Cowan:

All right?

Chris Pugh:

Right across the street. Okay. Best Vietnamese deli in town. Everything here is good, particularly the coffee. They make it for me with not as much sweetened condensed milk because I’m a special guest there. They know me.

Scott Cowan:

You’re a special guest. Okay. And where’s a great place to grab lunch?

Chris Pugh:

I’m a regular, so what’s that?

Scott Cowan:

Where’s a great place to grab lunch besides the, Besides that deli?

Chris Pugh:

Oh, well, you know, I, I go on these lunch dates with old people that all of whom are weirdos and have been photographed. I have like a weekly, sometimes bi weekly running lunch date with some of these cats. And we have like three or four places we go to get lunch. Most all of them are in the Chinatown International district area. Would you like a name? Sure.

Scott Cowan:

Drop one.

Chris Pugh:

Noodle house.

Scott Cowan:

Okay. Always looking for good places when I get to Seattle. All right. No, I, I’m, I, I’m. I can release you now. You can go and go watch.

Chris Pugh:

Please release me. Let me go. Okay. All right. Lovely chatting with you, Rachel. Hopefully I’ll see you soon.

Rachel Crick:

See you soon.

Chris Pugh:

I have to give you the story, otherwise I’ll forget I need it.

Rachel Crick:

I’m, I, I’m scanning them right now.

Chris Pugh:

So sooner the better the loud story. Okay, let’s make it time to meet up. Okay. Bye, you guys.

Scott Cowan:

Take care.

Chris Pugh:

Thanks for the podcast. Bye. You too.

Scott Cowan:

Oh, Rachel. So I’m gonna put you on the spot. Great place to grab coffee.

Rachel Crick:

I like. I, I firstly, I just want to say I don’t drink coffee, but if I’m going to go to a coffee shop or work or something like that, I like Mr. West U Village.

Scott Cowan:

Okay, and why do you like Mr. West? What’s, what is it?

Rachel Crick:

You know, it’s a great place because it’s got coffee and it also has lunch. And I know that people say that parking at U Village is terrible, but there are so many parking lots at U Village, so you can generally find a parking spot somewhere. You don’t have to pay for parking, and they don’t care if you sit there forever. And so you can go at breakfast and get a hot beverage and then just get up and go order lunch and then sit back down and work and work and work and work and work. Which is nice. It’s a nice, comfortable. Every table has an outlet.

Scott Cowan:

Oh, there’s. That’s, that’s, that’s a great reason for the best coffee shop on sale right there. I mean, that’s just, you know, if everybody’s got an outlet, what. You can’t go wrong.

Rachel Crick:

You can’t go wrong.

Scott Cowan:

So how about for lunch, are you gonna. Are you gonna cheat like Chris did and say, no, I’m kidding. Where’s a great lunch spot?

Rachel Crick:

I do love. He mentioned Fauxbach and I was like, oh, I love Fabok. I do love getting pho for lunch in the winter. And there’s a place called, I think it’s called Lee’s Teriyaki and Shoreline that has really great pho. Again, easy parking. That’s what it is all about for me. Fabok. Terrible parking.

Scott Cowan:

Got it, Got it. Well, as we, I wanna, I wanna know. So you’ve been doing this project basically for four years, right?

Chris Pugh:

Okay.

Scott Cowan:

I’ve been doing this podcast about five years. So we kind of same amount of time, you know, and, and through these times, you know, there’s things that are pleasant surprises, things that we didn’t see going wrong and all that. But what about this project has surprised you? Has it been easier, more difficult? But, you know, is it hurting cats? I mean, musicians are notorious for, you know, I’m kidding. But you know, what’s, what’s been a big surprise?

Rachel Crick:

I think maybe the biggest, the, the biggest thing that I found amazing is that, you know, this started, I was like, it’ll be 50 pictures of my friends, and now it’s over 300. But as far as like a, A big surprise, I don’t know, it’s. It’s Been great to get to hear all of the positive feedback. And I don’t want to say that that’s surprising, but it’s been, it’s, it’s. It wasn’t why I started out doing this, but hearing people say things like, you know, you’re getting, you know, your events bring community together and, you know, we started this coming out of COVID and so people hadn’t seen each other for years, that was really great to hear. I don’t know if there has been one thing that I could, that I could draw from that has been surprising.

Scott Cowan:

Okay, do you if you have any events on the horizon?

Rachel Crick:

I do. November 13th at Easy Street Records. Rosetta Greek crafted a miniature Easy Street Records, which is. Can be seen on our website. And that was made for us to as a fundraiser, so that we’ve been talking a lot about it on our website and on our, and on our socials. And there’s going to be one night on the November 13th at Easy street where we will have it live for people to see. And after that it will go to a private home. And we are going to be debuting a short film of a conversation between Rosetta Greek and Matt Vaughn at Easy street, talking about the building of the piece and the history of as many weirdos as possible and the history of Easy Street.

Rachel Crick:

And so that film will be shown and then there’ll be a conversation between Rosetta and Matt with a question and answer period.

Scott Cowan:

And so, so was the artwork itself, was it a commissioned piece for fundraising then?

Rachel Crick:

So, so we were sitting around, we were, we were having a fundraiser and we were talking about an upcoming fundraiser that we were having, and we were having a team meeting and Rosetta said, maybe I’ll make something that we can auction off at the fundraiser. And then it just took a life of its own where she created this amazing miniature of Easy Street Records. And we ended up not including it for sale at the fundraiser that we had, but we ended up, you know, showcasing it on social media so that more people could see it. And, and, but it was crafted just from her love of the work that we’re doing. She has given so much to the project that everyone has. Like, maybe that’s what surprised me is how willing these other photographers were like, you know, we’re going to do this. We’re going to join you. We’re going to do this work.

Rachel Crick:

This is important and we want to be a part of it. And I, I, in my wildest dreams, I would have never thought that I would have been working side by side with Lance Mercer and Charles Peterson and. And even, you know, Chris, I mean, Rosetta and I and Pamela, we’re amazed every day that people are, you know, wanting to help us do this work. It’s. It’s just been a blessing and something that I am very, very gracious, or not gracious. Very, very. What’s the word? I don’t know. I’m just.

Rachel Crick:

I’m. I’m just really thankful. Grateful to these people for. To everyone for helping this work get done. And everyone is a volunteer, so it’s amazing. Yeah. So anyways, I don’t know if that answers your question.

Scott Cowan:

No, it does. It does. It’s. It’s. It’s really the. The. The body of work that you’re displaying online, which isn’t the full body of work, is overwhelming. And in a good way, by the way, overwhelming.

Scott Cowan:

Like the volume. So many. So many of us have these things we want to do, and then we get distracted and we fade away from them. I really. I really like the. The tenacity that you. You, you. And it’s not just you.

Scott Cowan:

I know that. It’s the entire group of volunteers. I mean, collectively, you’re. You’re herding cats and keeping them moving forward. That’s kudos to you.

Rachel Crick:

Thank you.

Scott Cowan:

Yeah.

Rachel Crick:

And kudos to the team because we all work really well together. And the one thing that’s one of the things that’s really great about everyone on the team is we were all working in music during this decade, and we all grew up here, and this is the time of music was important to all of us.

Chris Pugh:

So.

Scott Cowan:

Right. So when you’re not taking photos of weirdos, when you’re not checking in to see if their homework’s done, because that’s what it sounds like to me. It’s like, turn your homework in. What do you. What do you like to do for fun and. Fun and excitement?

Rachel Crick:

I love to shoot live music. So there’s an online publication called Backbeat Seattle, and I work with the woman who runs that. She gets me into shows when she can so that I can shoot live shows, live music. I recently shot Wet Leg, the Water Boys, the Chameleons. I’ve really been lucky to shoot some pretty amazing bands for Dagmar and for Backbeat Seattle. I love to go out in nature and shoot nature, which I haven’t been able to do as much of with weirdos taking up a lot of my time. But, like, going down to the moor and shooting a show, first three songs of a show is great. And then I get to see this band play for free, which is amazing.

Rachel Crick:

And then I, you know, I’ve got a 26 year old daughter. I love to spend time with her and. Okay, Emily’s important.

Chris Pugh:

Where.

Scott Cowan:

All right, put me on the spot. You like to go shoot live music, so I’m going to treat you like a musician.

Chris Pugh:

Okay.

Scott Cowan:

What’s the best venue in Seattle to shoot live music at?

Rachel Crick:

I love shooting at the Paramount and the More and the Neptune. The SDG theaters are great to shoot at. And I also love shooting at Showbox Market and, and Showbox Soto.

Scott Cowan:

Those are my, those are, those. Okay.

Rachel Crick:

Those are my venues that I love to shoot at.

Scott Cowan:

Now I want you to not think like a videographer and a photographer. I want you to think like a fan in the audience. Where’s the best place for live music in Seattle?

Rachel Crick:

Depends on who I’m seeing. But I do love Climate Pledge. I love seeing shows at Climate Pledge.

Scott Cowan:

Really?

Rachel Crick:

Yeah, I mean I. They bring some great acts there. I mean, I saw when I got to see Coldplay at Climate Pledge, I cried. It’s like a venue that is big enough but small enough, if that makes sense. And they’ve done a really great job. Like the seats are super comfortable and it’s easy to get around the venue. It’s a beautiful venue. Sound is always amazing.

Rachel Crick:

I do love Climate Pledge, but I also love the Paramount. If I’m seeing a little bit of a smaller band, I, I love the Paramount.

Scott Cowan:

Now I’m sitting here on your website and I’m looking at a photo of a dunk tank in front of Darrell’s Tavern.

Chris Pugh:

Surely.

Scott Cowan:

Yeah, so let’s go down to that level. The, the local clubs, the Darrells and things like that. What’s a, what’s a good club to go see like, you know, your friends playing together on a Friday night type type band. Where do you like to go?

Rachel Crick:

Oh, I love Darrell’s. And Daryl’s is great. The owner is so nice and I don’t know, it just feels like home there. It’s close to my as 15 minutes from home.

Scott Cowan:

So. It’s close. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rachel Crick:

I like Tim’s. And White center is another great venue.

Scott Cowan:

Not been there yet.

Rachel Crick:

What else?

Scott Cowan:

Well, see this is the sad thing is that the venues are closing. Yeah, that’s the sad thing is like in the 80s there were some great venues in Seattle that just don’t exist anymore.

Rachel Crick:

Numos is a great place to see a show. My daughter’s going to show tonight at Barboza, which is A great place. A Crocodile is amazing. I love the. I love the Crocodile. Yeah, I’m. I’m a huge fan of supporting local theater, local music, theaters, venues.

Scott Cowan:

Got any. Any shows coming up that you’re excited about?

Rachel Crick:

No, no, I don’t. Not right now.

Scott Cowan:

You gotta get on that.

Chris Pugh:

I know.

Rachel Crick:

Yeah. Usually I do, but I did see that John Legend is coming, and I was like, oh, that would be fun. But I think I look at the tickets and they’re really expensive.

Scott Cowan:

All right, so we’re gonna. We’re gonna wrap this up. Kudos. This is very cool. We’re gonna make sure that we have a link in the show notes for people to go take a look at it. Will there be. Before the book is launched, will there be a. Do you know, will there be any more exhibits of the work?

Rachel Crick:

Yeah, so the work is up right now at the. At Nordstrom downtown Seattle, and the Habitat Grill. There are. There are some huge prints of the work. Okay. And so that’s just free and open to the public at the Hotel Crocodile. In the. In the hallways of the hotel, there are.

Rachel Crick:

There’s work. Also, the hotel has two rooms that they are calling weirdo rooms that people can rent and stay in and that work at the Hotel Crocodile, which is above the Crocodile in Belltown. That work is up through until January. And then we’re planning some other events for next year where I’m. Hopefully we will be able to show another large portion of the work. My. My goal was to be able to have everyone’s pictures shown in a gallery at least once. It’s very expensive.

Rachel Crick:

I don’t know if that’ll make that happen, but I am having a show at the. The gallery on the Seattle Central College campus on Capitol Hill in February for Black History Month.

Scott Cowan:

Okay.

Rachel Crick:

I’m just starting to plan that now. I’ll have between 35 and 40 of the story pairs up there. And. Yeah, I’m. I’m still trying to figure out the rest of 2026. Okay.

Scott Cowan:

What. Didn’t I ask you? That I should have.

Rachel Crick:

If you’d like to support the work, you can donate directly on our website. It’ll go through Shunpike, so, you know, you’ll. People might get a receipt back that says that you donated to Shinpike, but it really will be for poster productions. And so we’re trying to raise money to get the book done. Trying to raise money to get. To be able to do more shows and just to support the work that we’re doing. Let’s see. And I Just think that it’s important to recognize all the people.

Rachel Crick:

We didn’t talk about all of the people who are part of this project. We didn’t mention them by name. But the photographers who have taken portraits for. For as many weirdos as possible are Alex Crick, myself, Rosetta Greek, Lance Mercer, Chris Pugh, Niffer Calderwood, and Charles Peterson. And the people behind the scenes are, you know, my friend Pamela Houle, who helps me run and manage this whole thing. Ricardo Frazier helps as the executive advisor, and Jay Barber helps with all of our flyer design. Aaron Buell helps with all of our social media. And we’ve got two people who are helping us with advising, and that’s Scott Griggs and Bob Watabi.

Rachel Crick:

And then a guy named David Cinnamon helps us with all of our sound when we do live events. So we’re very, very lucky to have all these people helping us make this whole thing happen. And I’m. I’m honored and. And humbled by how many people want to help us and. And how many people have shared their portraits and stories with us. It’s. It’s really.

Rachel Crick:

It’s really amazing.

Scott Cowan:

Well, kudos to all the team, every single member. That’s fabulous work you’re doing. I have my last question for you. I’ve warned you about this question. I got to set the table. You agreed to participate. You promised me you would answer. Now, Chris jumped out because he was afraid of the question.

Scott Cowan:

I mean, if we’re being honest, he. He didn’t have to leave. He knew the question was coming. And so here you go. You ready?

Rachel Crick:

No, I’m ready.

Scott Cowan:

All right, cake or pie? And why?

Rachel Crick:

Oh, well, cake. But that is because I have celiac, and with celiac, I haven’t been able to figure out how to make a really great pie crust anymore. So.

Scott Cowan:

Okay, what type of cake?

Rachel Crick:

Chocolate, chocolate, white frosting.

Scott Cowan:

Okay, so cake.

Rachel Crick:

Yeah.

Scott Cowan:

But if it was a pie, what type of. What type of pie would it be?

Rachel Crick:

Oh, I do love pie. Also this year I made huckleberry pie, which was really good. I love rhubarb pie. I like to do rhubarb apple pie. I also like to do rhubarb apple cake. I do love to bake.

Scott Cowan:

So rhubarb apple cake.

Rachel Crick:

It’s delicious.

Scott Cowan:

Yeah, that sounds awesome.

Rachel Crick:

Yeah, it’s really good.

Scott Cowan:

That’s. That’s.

Rachel Crick:

That.

Scott Cowan:

Send me a recipe. That. That sounds awesome. All right, well, Rachel, thank you so much for sitting down with me. Chris, even though you’re not here. Thank you for jumping on and I mean, he just jumped in the deep end. I mean, he showed up early. We were talking, you know, he had no idea what he was said.

Scott Cowan:

He had no idea what he said yes to. He was a good sport. You really didn’t know what you’re getting into. You’ve been a great sport. Thank you so much for being here. And I’m going to just ask everybody that’s listening. Go ahead and make sure you check out As Many Weirdos As Possible, the links in the show notes. And Rachel, thanks so much.

Rachel Crick:

Thanks for having us.