Discover the Price Sculpture Forest on Whidbey Island: Where Art and Nature Meet

Tucked away in the trees on Whidbey Island lies a place where imagination roams free and creativity is rooted in conservation. The Price Sculpture Forest isn’t a typical art gallery or nature preserve—it’s a living blend of both.

Located on Whidbey Island, the Price Sculpture Forest is a standout destination for those who love outdoor art, forest walks, or places that tell a story. It’s proof of what’s possible when one idea is nurtured and supported by a passionate community.

Whether you’re planning a weekend on Whidbey Island or simply exploring meaningful places across Washington State, a walk through the Price Sculpture Forest is an experience to remember.

Scott Price of Price Sculpture Forest on Whidbey Island Episode Transcript

Welcome to the Exploring Washington State Podcast. My name is Scott Cowan and I’m the host of the show. Each episode I have a conversation with an interesting guest who is living in or from Washington State. These are casual conversations with real and interesting people. I think you’re going to like the show. So let’s jump right in with today’s guest. Well, welcome back to this episode, the Exploring Washington State podcast.

Scott Cowan [00:00:28]:
My guest today is Scott Price of the Price Sculpture Forest on Whidbey Island. So, Scott, welcome to the show.

Scott Price [00:00:38]:
Hey, thank you, Scott. Glad to be here.

Scott Cowan [00:00:41]:
Scott and I tried to record this a week ago. We had some technical challenges. We’re back today. We’re gonna make it happen. Scott, from my audience that doesn’t know about Whidbey that much or about your sculpture forest, give me a super quick high level overview of the, of what’s going on at the sculpture forest in 2025.

Scott Price [00:01:05]:
Sure. Yeah. So we’re a community sculpture park and nature preserve in Coupeville, which is right in the middle of Whidbey Island. Whidbey’s for those who don’t know, is northwest of Seattle and it’s accessed by two ferries or a bridge. So it’s got lots of ways to get on. And yeah, we have basically a six tenths of a mile, very accessible walking path through the forest. And when you come around corners, you will hopefully be surprised and delighted by the next outdoor art piece that you come upon. Some of which are on the ground like usual, others are even suspended up in the air between trees.

Scott Price [00:01:49]:
And we even have a world’s first version of an augmented reality sculpture, sculpture exhibition at the Sculpture Park. And we’re continually adding. So, you know, like this year we’re bringing in some new art. We have a dance event where professional dancers come in and actually dance around the sculptures, interpreting the sculptures and bringing in, we’re expanding the parking lot, a whole bunch of things. There’s always something new going on.

Scott Cowan [00:02:21]:
All right. Now, when I read about the park, the interesting, there’s some interesting information online. So you, you and your, your wife purchased the land. It’s approximately 15 acres, or at least what you originally purchased is approximately 15 acres. And you were thinking about building your home there. For one reason or another, you elected to not do that. And the way, the way it sounds online is you were looking to sell the property to somebody who would be a good steward of it. Whether you found somebody or not, you ended up keeping the property and you ended up basically making it so nobody can develop it in perpetuity and he turned it into a free public access sculpture forest.

Scott Cowan [00:03:12]:
The biggest question that pops out of all of that for me is.

Scott Cowan [00:03:17]:
Were. You a fan or supporter of the arts before this or what was the motivation for you to turn this into a outdoor art gallery? For lack of an articulate way of putting it, sure.

Scott Price [00:03:32]:
Yeah. If you said 20 years ago that I’d be creating a sculpture park, public sculpture park, that was definitely not on my vision board, so to speak. It was something that, that happened organically. And you, you did a good job of explaining the initial steps that, that I went through and from deciding not to build there to putting a conservation easement on it. And, but then I started the next step to answer your question was when I permanently protected it with the conservation easement. I said, well, it, I could, since I’m not going to build on it and the idea is to preserve it, it would certainly be nice to share it with the public. It’s a very healthy, very verdant, very old forest and it would be really nice for just a place for somebody to perhaps take a walk. So my first idea was to just put a, a path through it and say, okay, well I’ll just open it to the, to the community and share it with them.

Scott Price [00:04:44]:
And then the next step, which is, was the big step was I happen to be traveling. I enjoy traveling, my family does as well. And we happen to go to three different sculpture parks, somewhat back to back in a way. You know, different trips, but different weekends. But we happened to go to some and, and as I was going in, some of them, they weren’t like the Seattle Art Museum 1 in Downtown Seattle that’s on the waterfront, which is this mega project. And some of them were on a smaller scale. And I got to thinking, is it possible for me to single handedly create a public sculpture park? And yes, we now know, but a lot of work I saved up my money for quite a while to put, put the infrastructure in and a lot of time spent on designing and, and thinking about what would I like in a sculpture park, you know, you know, not necessarily what other sculpture parks have done and which makes it a somewhat unique experience in some cases. And, and it was also an expression of being interested in the arts.

Scott Price [00:05:54]:
I, I used to be represented by some galleries in the past, but it was for photography, it was, it was not for sculpture. You know, I’ve been asked, you know, do I have any sculptures in the sculpture park? And, and us people is, is that I have one sculpture and the sculpture is now 16 acres. We added an acre. But you know, I have a 16 acre sculpture and it’s the Sculpture Park.

Scott Cowan [00:06:17]:
Okay, but you did have an artistic background. I mean, you as a photographer. So you were interested in the arts before this. All right.

Scott Price [00:06:28]:
Yes, yeah. And I was involved with some arts organizations and things like that as well. Yes.

Scott Cowan [00:06:33]:
So you mentioned saving some money. It took some time. From the time that you got the idea to the time that you quote, unquote, I want to say open the doors, but there’s no doors but to you opened for the public. How long was that process?

Scott Price [00:06:48]:
Yeah, it was probably about seven years. The total process. Yeah, the initial process was on preserving the property and that was when I was more focused on conservation easement and how I was going to protect it in perpetuity. But the interesting thing there was I had to think about what were the permitted uses, because when you put in place a conservation easement like that, you have to state from the beginning what’s allowed, because if it’s not stated, then it’s not allowed. So I had to. So at that time I had to think, okay, think bigger and bigger. And I thought about the trail and then I thought about the park. And so I said that there’s actually a 35 page single space document that is publicly available that describes that, yes, I can put in these things.

Scott Price [00:07:39]:
And so I had to think ahead. I really did. Because, you know, every, every part of that vision, if you want to use that word, of where I want it to go is not in place yet. But I had to think about where I want it to go because the, the, the basically the, the, the, the safety barriers or the, you know, the, the guardrails that are being put on, what can be done there. I had to decide now, you know, 12 years ago and, and work within that.

Scott Cowan [00:08:10]:
What can be put on there. For example, could you put a small structure that would be, would serve as a gift shop, for lack of a better word?

Scott Price [00:08:21]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, good question. So, yes, I, not, not necessarily a gift shop, although that would probably be allowed, but it’s more oriented to a gallery. So I did an indoor gallery, so community space, in other words, a place that people could meet perhaps as well as exhibit. And that is in the conservation easement. It hasn’t been built. There’s no structure on the property. But at the same time that was put, put in there. Just thinking ahead that I may want to add indoor art exhibitions, maybe some 2D in addition to sculpture, even though the focus would certainly always be with sculpture and and also, you know, things such as doing offshoots to the existing trails.

Scott Price [00:09:06]:
That’s allowed. Expand the parking lot. You know, things along those lines are, Are in there to allow for future.

Scott Cowan [00:09:13]:
Growth now as the. Well, I don’t know the ownership structure, but you’re the, you were the owner. Maybe it’s in, in the, in the nonprofit’s name now. But what if. What if you, let’s say five years from now, you come back and you go, well, we really want to do. Just say we want to put a gift shop in. I’m going to specifically call it a gift shop. Not a gallery, just a gift shop.

Scott Cowan [00:09:40]:
And that isn’t technically in the. The conservation easement. Is there a process that you could go back and ask for that to be.

Scott Price [00:09:52]:
There is. The Whidbey Camano Land Trust is the, Is the organization. The great organization. I’ve been a member for decades and used to be on their board, and I love what they do. And they’re the ones who hold the conservation easement and actually essentially check that it’s being fulfilled. And if there is a valid request, then there is a process to request something. However, frankly, if it’s not something that really continues the original vision of, of, of being open to the community, providing a sculpture park and, and also preserving the forest and the habitat there, they may say no. So it’s not, it’s not like just because they’re making a request that.

Scott Price [00:10:46]:
That doesn’t mean they would necessarily get accepted. But there is a process for that. But it’s not a unilateral process. I can’t decide that. And I still own the property, but it’s under the control of the 501C3. And that when we opened and all of the infrastructure and the, the, the sculptures that I purchased and, and the trails and parking lot and everything else that, that I put in place, I donated to the 501C3. And then the land itself is just in my will that, you know, upon my passing, that it just goes to the nonprofit. So.

Scott Cowan [00:11:25]:
Okay, so obviously, and I’m being kind of facetious, you’re not going to call up the, the conservation group and go, hey, I want to put condos here. That’s not going to happen.

Scott Price [00:11:36]:
That’s right. Exactly. Yeah. Pretty much guarantee that. That it would not happen.

Scott Cowan [00:11:40]:
Not. Not a bad thing. Yeah, not a bad thing at all. Okay, so you’ve answered some other questions I was going to have, but. So you spent seven years kind of planning. You’ve been open for five. Yes, as of when we’re recording this, it’s May20,25. How many, how many sculptures? Physical sculptures.

Scott Cowan [00:11:59]:
We’ll come back to the other part. Physical sculptures are in the park right now.

Scott Price [00:12:03]:
Yeah, I would, I, I believe it’s about 36 plus or minus, but I believe it’s about 36 right now. And we, I believe when we opened we had about 20 or so. And then we’ve gradually added a few. Not many, but a few have been rotated out and, and now we’re at 36. What. I have a number of design principles there that, that I put in place. And one of them is that there are some exceptions, but for the most part, when you see, and you’re experiencing one sculpture, you don’t see any other sculptures. And so in other words, there’s, there’s a maximum number of sculptures I want there because I don’t want it to seem like a gallery where it’s just like bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

Scott Price [00:12:52]:
They’re just all lined up kind of thing. Every sculpture has its own space and it’s also where it’s located for a reason. Every single sculpture. I can tell you why it’s located where it’s at for a specific reason. And so because of that, we only have about maybe three or four spots left right now. And, and then after that, then it’ll be a matter of rotating out actually what we already have.

Scott Cowan [00:13:21]:
Right. How was this when you, you know, in that seven year window where you started to explore this and is it getting, you know, getting closer and closer to it, like coming, coming together? How was the community’s response to this when you started presenting it to the community?

Scott Price [00:13:42]:
Great. The one, one thing I love is that we now get people from all over the world, which is terrific. And it’s become a, I guess you could say an attraction or a destination on its own. In other words, people are coming to it now, the park, and then going to other places. Initially when we opened it was more people were coming to other places. And then they’d ask a local and say, where else should we see? And they’d say, oh, you should check out this little park, it’s down the road here, you know. But now we’re getting more and more people from all over. But the, to answer your question, the local community has been very receptive.

Scott Price [00:14:22]:
And the thing that I hear so often, and it really, really just kind of heartwarming to hear, is so many locals, just independently, they’re not hearing each other say this independently. They say that whenever they have a visitor Come visit them on Whidbey, where they live. One of their very top places, they always take their guests is to the Sculpture Park. And to me, that’s a good vote of confidence. And everybody’s been very supportive of it from the beginning. And, you know, and it ranges from neighbors. You know, matter of fact, some of our best. Our best volunteers are actually immediate neighbors.

Scott Price [00:15:04]:
So immediate. It’s close. And then you go out and, you know, the town of Coupeville is very supportive. The local chamber of commerce, they love it because it brings in people. We’ve been getting really good media attention, which brings in from, like, some magazines and newspapers, and so that helps bring people in for tourism. So, you know, it’s a. It has been a very supportive thing from everyone in the community.

Scott Cowan [00:15:31]:
When you first started looking for sculptures, how did you go and find artists whose sculptures would work outdoors? What was your. How did you start to source the. The sculptures for the park?

Scott Price [00:15:50]:
Yeah, it was really three ways of doing that. One was I actually put out a national call for artists and used an online platform where a lot of artists are aware of it. It’s. You know, it has a really wide distribution and paid to put out that call for artists that. That got. That got me connected with people that I wouldn’t have otherwise known. And then I also, on Whidbey, locally, I knew of artists that I. I respected their work.

Scott Price [00:16:23]:
I also, in some cases, knew of specific examples of work, and I said, oh, I’d love to have that piece in the Sculpture Park. And they didn’t necessarily. In some cases, they might have known me, but in other cases, they didn’t. But I knew of them locally, and I would reach out to them and. And then the. And then in other cases, on a national level, I knew of sculptors who had absolutely no idea who I was, and this. And the Sculpture park wasn’t even open, but I knew of their work, and I was very impressed with it. And I would see individual sculptures or styles that I thought would be a great fit.

Scott Price [00:17:02]:
And I reached out to them, and some of them became really big supporters. I mean, it was a risk for them, especially some of the more. More famous ones, you know, like. Like, there’s one sculptor, Jeff Kahn from Pennsylvania, and he’s had stuff, you know, all over the country, does incredible work, and he had no idea who I was. And he. But he really, really believed in the vision of what we were trying to do, and he became just a huge supporter. And we’ve got a really amazing piece of his in the Sculpture Park. And it’s been there from the beginning before we opened, which again, you know, big risk on his part, but took it and now he’s got a very prominent spot that a lot of people have enjoyed.

Scott Price [00:17:49]:
So just one example among many of, you know, people now we have one sculptor from, from Amsterdam now. So we actually have somebody from outside of the US as well. She’s Daniela Rabinowitz and she has a huge flying fish sculpture that literally are 27ft wide. And it’s, and it’s, it’s suspended in the air going through the trees of a school of fish. And.

Scott Cowan [00:18:16]:
At first you are buying the art out of your own personal account. How does the, how does the sculpture forest. Are you still funding the sculptures directly or does the, does the 503 have, is it, are you raising funds for new pieces or how are you growing the collection?

Scott Price [00:18:42]:
Yeah, my, my goal is to make the. Take a step back to get it started. It was 100% me. Since then my goal has been to make it self sustaining as much as possible. I’m still certainly by far putting in the most hours, you know, you know, obviously as a volunteer, but you know, when I, I seek out grants and then also we get donations which are mostly, you know, just small dollar amounts in our donation box. But I add those up and I’ve been trying to make it sustainable for the future. You know, if I, if I get abducted by aliens, I want to make sure that, that the, the sculpture forest can continue. So basically we actually have five different models on how we have sculptures in the park and, and it start.

Scott Price [00:19:28]:
And these have been in place for a while, even from, from the beginning, as you said. Some of them I purchased. In addition, we also have some that have been outri by the sculptor because they believe in what we’re doing and, and they’d like to be a part of it. We also have some that are on long term loan by a sculptor. We have a few that are actually for sale. So you wouldn’t necessarily know it. It’s not like it has a for sale sticker on it. But if you go into it, we have a free self guided tour that is provided and in that tour it says that.

Scott Price [00:20:02]:
And then the fifth, the fifth source is we have a few that have been donated by a patron. In other words, you know, we have those by me, we have some donated by the sculptors and then we have some that are donated by a patron, usually in memory of somebody. So it’s actually five different models. And now we’ve got got sculptures in the park.

Scott Cowan [00:20:24]:
The sarcasm in me goes, there’s a, you know, you didn’t say there’s, you know, there should be like a forced sales like going back to remember, like you’re younger than me, but remember like Keha or Mini Pearl or whatever her name was, had the little tag on her hat.

Scott Price [00:20:38]:
Sure.

Scott Cowan [00:20:38]:
I don’t know. That’s just what flashed in my head. Have you, have you, has the sculpture facilitated a sale of any of the. Has anyone bought a sculpture from the park?

Scott Price [00:20:50]:
Yes. Most of what happens though is, is artists get commissions, in other words, and I’ve heard a number of those stories. So somebody is in the park and they, and a visitor comes and sees it and in our self guided tour information, we give all the information, we give the artist’s website, their, their email address, I mean the whole deal. And they make direct contact and some of the artists have told me that they’ve received commissions and that’s the way I love that kind of thing because it’s even better than a sculpture being removed from the Sculpture park because the time and effort and obviously if it’s there, we love it in the first place. So it really kind of warms my heart more when an artist can make a living and make income because of something that is in the Sculpture Park. But if somebody sees it and wants to basically commission or hire that artist to create something else new, that’s wonderful.

Scott Cowan [00:21:56]:
Since you’re, you mentioned when we got started you’re nearing capacity for the, for the placements of sculptures. So I have two questions. One, you mentioned you could maybe rotate through, through, you know, rotate stuff which a lot of museums and galleries do that all the time. They, you know, put something away. So we have that as a, as an option. But because a certain piece might not look good in a specific location, you, you need, it’s not just like you’re hanging on a wall type thing. So you’ve got to take into account the, the environment that the sculpture is going to be placed in, in which might limit you in what you can replace out because you, you’ve got those difficulties. But do you have any ideas about maybe expanding the walking paths so that you could, you know, take, take more of the, I don’t want to say take more of the forest than that way.

Scott Cowan [00:22:56]:
That sounds like bad, but. No, but open up more of the forest for visitors and thus open up more placement locations for additional art.

Scott Price [00:23:07]:
Yeah. By the way, you hit the nail on the head as far as how important it is that some of the sculptures fit their Environment. And also, for instance, when I’m making decisions on new sculptures coming in, they need to not only fit the environment and fit the quality bar up front, but on top of that, they have to also blend well with the rest of the collection that’s already there. You know, in some cases, I’ve turned down really high quality art because it’s either similar to something we already have, or it doesn’t quite fit our themes. We actually have themes there, which is kind of unusual for a sculpture park, but anyhow. So, you know, so that’s definitely hitting the nail on the head. It’s an important part of the selection process, actually. As far as your question about the trails, I have looked at several places where we might do some offshoot trails.

Scott Price [00:24:06]:
In other words, kind of like an out and back little spur trail. However, the trails, I have two loop trails. One of them is intentionally very flat and accessible. We’ve had a number of people who go through there in wheelchairs, walkers, you know, mobility scooters, things like that. And that’s on the flat part of the property. And that’s to give those people, you know, good access to a pretty forest environment to actually go on a hike, so to speak, you know, but in a very accessible way. And then there’s a sloped part of the trail or of the property where there’s a trail that, you know, would be harder. It’s just steeper, so it’d be harder for that.

Scott Price [00:24:51]:
So we actually have it separate, and it’s also a loop and, and that. That provides some views and some access. And each of those two loops is themed differently. So. Yeah. So anyhow, you know, as far as. As far as adding more trails, I. I don’t want.

Scott Price [00:25:10]:
I don’t want people to be looking at other people on, like, the other side of the trail. So I don’t want too many trails in there, actually, you know, I want. When you’re. When you’re walking on the trail, it should seem like you’re in the middle of the forest and you don’t see other. Made it too dense. With a network of trails, you’d probably look through the woods and see other people. So, you know, what we have, I think is good, but we do have some opportunity to expand it if we’d like to.

Scott Cowan [00:25:42]:
I really, I really like how you’re curating this experience that you’re taking. So many people would go, well, I can put more, more, more, and I sometimes more as much less.

Scott Price [00:25:55]:
I completely agree. And you know, there are some areas, for instance, where we could put a trail. And my thought is, well, that’s an unimpeded section of forest that you can look deep into and that’s the intended experience there. So instead of putting a trail through it, you’re looking deep into a forest and that’s good. I know that won’t be developed because it’s part of the property.

Scott Cowan [00:26:18]:
Now I’m scanning through the website right now which I’ll put a link in the show notes. These are pretty good size installations. So from a, from a logistics standpoint, what sort of equipment have you had to use to get, to get a sculpture in place and placed and you know, you know you’re not, these are not just something that you’re going to carry in on your, you know, on your back. They’re pretty good size. So what does the logistics look like?

Scott Price [00:26:48]:
Yeah, it, it varies significantly. Some of them have arrived in pieces. So the individual pieces are manageable on hand trucks or in some cases literally a lawnmower with a trailer on the back. Because our, it’s a trail. It’s a, it’s a four foot wide the trail. So it’s not like we can take a, you know, pickup truck back there. I could expand the trail if, if I wanted to, but I don’t want to. You know, I want be a trail.

Scott Price [00:27:20]:
So it is a consideration. The, the, the heaviest one that we have is a stone one by Sue Taves call called we are Water. And how we got around that one was we actually installed it near the parking lot. So, so that, so we, we used a Kubota tractor to come in with that one and that was fine because it was, that was pretty relatively easy. The most difficult one not, not length of time. We’ve had some that have taken a week to install, but this one just took a, essentially a day to install. But we have a Tyrannosaurus Rex by Joe Treat and it’s, it’s, it’s not only huge, but it’s one piece. It does not come apart and it’s got a wide stance with these big feet and to, to get that in, I was on the head, my father was on the tail and I hired four guys from a local moving company with, and they got in the center and put the straps around their chest and their necks and their shoulders and all of us, we were sweating like crazy.

Scott Price [00:28:31]:
That was physically the most difficult one to get in place. But now that it’s in place, it’s in a great spot. And even though it was a lot of effort to Put it there. It was funny when, afterwards, when Joe came to take a look at where we had said it, he said, yep, this is staying here. And he was very kind and he, and he donated it to the Skulsher Forest.

Scott Cowan [00:28:58]:
I’m looking at the photo that you have on the website with the little girl leaning up against it and I’m looking at it going, yeah, that’s pretty substantial.

Scott Price [00:29:09]:
Oh yeah, yeah.

Scott Cowan [00:29:11]:
Maybe it came like, maybe you had to assemble it, which in and of itself.

Scott Price [00:29:18]:
Well, that’s the thing. We didn’t. It was all one piece. Yeah. There was nothing to take apart on that. There are some other larger, much even larger than that piece that. But they come in pieces, you know, and they’re bolted together on site and we’ve had to use things with pulleys and tripods that are way up in the air to get pieces up and things like that. And but we, we, we, we make do.

Scott Price [00:29:42]:
I mean, you know, except for, like I said, an occasionally a, a small lawn tractor. Literally, I’m talking about a tractor that mows grass. I mean, you know, just a small, little long tractor. And other than that, we’ve had no mechanized equipment bring all this stuff in. It’s mostly been hand trucks and wheelbarrows for most of it, you know, or people just grabbing ends of stuff like the T. Rex and pulling it, you know.

Scott Cowan [00:30:05]:
So I, I’m not familiar with, with, with the, with the artist Joe Treat. Where is he based out of?

Scott Price [00:30:12]:
He’s based in Bo, Which. Okay. North of Seattle. And he, he actually has a, basically a zoo in the front yard of his home. And I had heard about him and we, we started talking and, and the, the fun thing was after we put in T. Rex, he got excited, I got excited and, and he said, oh, let’s, you know, let’s think about putting something else in the sculpture forest. And I have a limit, I have a maximum of 2 of by any particular artist. So, so we looked at one more and, and, and among his, his huge menagerie of, of animals that he’s got there, he had a gorilla.

Scott Price [00:30:58]:
And we have this, this big basically old growth stone stump that, that sticks out of the ground and it’s pretty high. It sticks out about 8ft and maybe probably a little more than that actually. And, and I said, oh, the gorilla would be great standing on top of that, that stump. So, so now the, the gorilla looks down upon everybody who walks by. That’s by Joe as well.

Scott Cowan [00:31:25]:
So how did he get this T Rex to you? Because you Know.

Scott Price [00:31:30]:
Yeah, it was. It was. We brought a trailer to him and put. And we figured out a way to using ratchets and levers and a whole bunch of stuff to get it onto the trailer. And the funny thing was that that Deception Pass Bridge, which is a fairly, you know, famous bridge, and it’s the most visited state park in the state. Deception Pass. When we brought the T. Rex on the trailer across the bridge, my father had the great suggestion and he said, you know, you should get a picture of this going across the bridge.

Scott Price [00:32:10]:
So it was actually him and I and driving it back. So he pulled off on the side of the road, and I ran down the road onto the bridge with a camera and got it coming across the Deception Pass Bridge. And. And as part of the park opening, the local newspaper, the Whidbey News Times, they love the photo so much that the photo of this Tyrannosaurus rex coming across the Deception Pass bridge was on the front top of the front page, very top. And I’ve never seen this before, since. They usually have black and white print, but they actually red print and it said wild art was the headline. And it was this T. Rex coming across the Deception, Deception Pass Bridge.

Scott Cowan [00:33:10]:
I found a larger photo of it on your website in the blog section. And the photo that you have in the photo gallery with the little girl and just the head is impressive, but. But it doesn’t hold a candle to this.

Scott Price [00:33:30]:
Well, the nice thing about that is, you know, like I said, everything’s placed where it is for a reason. And that one is intentionally placed behind an old growth stump with a lot of ferns and some large ocean spray and some other bushes, and you come down the path and all of a sudden there’s those teeth right there in your face. And I have. And, you know, it’s not like I hang out there, but I, you know, hang out in that spot. And just me. The few times when I’ve been walking down the path and I happen to be following people, I have many times heard people literally yelp, you know, and then they’re laughing. You know, they’re laughing. And that’s exactly the point, you know.

Scott Cowan [00:34:16]:
So I don’t mean to. I don’t mean to laugh at people, but that’s. Wow. Okay. So we could talk for quite a while about how you got that thing in here. I just. Yikes. Okay.

Scott Cowan [00:34:34]:
When you mentioned people visiting, what has been the feedback that you’ve received from your visitors?

Scott Price [00:34:45]:
Yeah, a lot of it has been, I would say, variations on appreciation, which is. Which is great. You know, that really makes everybody, not only me, but all the volunteers that help put the sculpture forest together and keep it running. When people really appreciate it, you know, it’s free. That’s one of the many guiding principles. And one of the things is there’s no barrier to entry. So people come in and they have a really positive, I like to say in some cases, maybe it’s grandiose, but hopefully somewhat life affirming. And what I mean by that is, you know, they, they, they walk out happier than them when they walk in.

Scott Price [00:35:28]:
And, and, and, and I’ve had, you know, for instance, we have a book, like most people would call it a guest book, but I call it the participation book at the exit kiosk. And, and I encourage people, they, you know, they can certainly put just their name and where they’re from, like a regular gu. Right on the COVID and on the sign for people to put a haiku or to do a drawing or to, you know, say something that is, you know, meaningful to them or things like that. And some of the things that I’ve heard, you know, just, you know, really, really incredible. Like, you know, one, one lady was talking about how she was incredibly down in life and, and at the end of going through it, she, she felt so much better about the possibilities in her life. And I’m, wow, that’s, that’s, you know, I mean, you know, to, to have that kind of effect on somebody, not that it has that kind of effect on everybody, I’m definitely not saying that. But to somebody, to kind of, you know, put that on paper and I mean, it sounded the way she was writing, it sounded almost almost suicidal in a way, you know, before. And, and then she said, you know, things are more positive now.

Scott Price [00:36:49]:
And I was like, oh my gosh, you know, I wish I got to meet that person, that person in person, you know, and, but most of it is, you know, joy or they have a really good family experience because it’s, it’s certainly not just for kids, but parents love it and kids tend to love it as well. A lot of kids will say, can we go back through again? You know, and, and people also really like the nature integrated art aspect. You know, the fact that they’re experiencing both art and nature in the same experience. And you know, it’s not just one or the other. It’s not a gallery with blank white walls. And it’s not just a walk through the woods kind of thing. And they’re blended well together.

Scott Cowan [00:37:36]:
You’ve been open for five years Any major surprises?

Scott Price [00:37:42]:
I’d say the, the, the biggest surprise, and the biggest surprise would be the generosity of people that I’ve encountered along the way. And by saying that, I don’t mean that people aren’t generous, but I mean, you know, more so than I would have thought. And, and when you take into account the terrific artists that we have there and how they’ve participated and are sharing their work with everybody and especially the volunteers, because without the volunteers, there’s a lot of work there that seems invisible because we’re known for having a well maintained and good experience and having everything together. And that doesn’t just happen magically. And the generosity of time and effort of the volunteers has been incredible too. And it’s been a very pleasant surprise. It was an unknown. When I opened it up, it was like, okay, here we go.

Scott Price [00:38:54]:
Let’s see how this community experiment works. And it has been working, which is great. Great.

Scott Cowan [00:39:03]:
Before we recorded this, we recorded an episode of what’s your Washington? Where I asked you three questions about Whidbey Island. Right. And you, I’m not going to spoil it, but you, you shared a song and I’m still, still annoyed with you. Got to be honest, still, because it’s, it’s in my head. But it was, you know, you, it was about Disneyland and I mentioned how Disneyland is at least when I was there and it’s been a number of years now, but it was always very clean and spotless and the, the experience was so well curated without you really knowing it was being curated because they, everybody that from the custodian who’s emptying the trash can is in a, in a costume appropriate for the area. They worked really hard at keeping the park looking pristine, which is not what you’re trying to do. You’re. You’re a forest, but you, you.

Scott Cowan [00:39:59]:
But it sounds like to me that you and the volunteers have this pride that’s similar to that in, in the sense that you want it to present well. Now it’s an outdoor natural environment, so that is a little different. But you mentioned volunteers also. Approximately how many people are volunteering at this time to help keep the park going or the forest. I’ll call it, I’m going to call it a park off and I’m sure. But you know, the forest going.

Scott Price [00:40:27]:
Sure. I’d say as far as active volunteers, it’s pretty small group. It’s probably about six people and, and then we occasionally get some others that you probably say like four or five others that, that participate as they can. We can we definitely, like many nonprofits, we definitely actually need more. But, but at the same time, the, between myself and the other volunteers, we’re were able to do it, you know, or at least you know, it basically if we had more volunteers, we would do even more is one of those kinds of things. But one of the guiding principles is we don’t do more for quantity. We stick with what we got as long as we can maintain the quality. And, and if we have capacity, and the capacity could either be people or it could be funding or whatever.

Scott Price [00:41:22]:
If we have capacity for more, then we’ll, we’ll do more. But that’s never. We don’t move on to the next shiny object and then forget that our existing objects need to be cared for. So we always make sure that the, the foundation of what we created is cared for and then we build on top of that if we have the capacity to do it.

Scott Cowan [00:41:42]:
About how much time does the forest take of yours on a weekly basis?

Scott Price [00:41:49]:
Yeah, it certainly changed over time. The, the, the big year ramping up to opening, I was generally working. Fortunately my, my wife was able to take over our, we worked together on a business as far as our income and she was essentially able to take over for the most part during that year. And between me and some other volunteers, we were able to get it. Six years leading up was a lot of design and permits and concepts and reaching out to people. Still a lot of time. But that year before, I was probably doing about seven 70 hour work weeks for the entire year and it was just on the sculpture forest and I had a business and a family, so it was pretty extreme year. But since then it became a lot more reasonable.

Scott Price [00:42:46]:
At this point, depending, it’s probably, probably about 15 hours a week, you know, with, with spikes that, you know, or more like if we’re bringing in something new. And you know, just for me, I’m not including the other volunteers, just answering your question about, for me it’s probably about that. And then. Yeah, and then it spikes when, when we have something new going on.

Scott Cowan [00:43:08]:
You know, something else that you guys are doing is this augmented reality. How did you come up to the decision to add augmented reality to the, to the forest?

Scott Price [00:43:23]:
Yeah, from a couple perspectives. I really, I was thinking about how to, how to increase the diversity of the experience beyond just diversity of sculptures, of physical sculptures on site. And I had seen how some, including digital artists were creating augmented reality and in some cases they even created purely digital augmented reality. I don’t know if you’d call it a sculpture but it was an art form. In other words, you could do augmented reality on your devices and you could see something that was not in the actual world, but, you know, augmented. By the way, to clarify, just so your listeners understand virtual reality, you can think of it as putting goggles on and you’re looking at a world that is entirely created. What you’re looking at augmented reality is where you’re seeing the real world and there’s something augmented, there’s something on top of that that’s integrated with the real world. And what I initially wanted to do, I had several ideas and I was able to connect with a startup company that’s based out of California and Mexico called Prefixa.

Scott Price [00:44:48]:
And they were really excited about some of the ideas that I was talking about because for me, it would create something that like our first exhibition was actually a first of its kind in the entire world. And I’ll explain that a little bit. And so it got them an opportunity to develop their technology and that they can use for other purposes other than sculpture parks potentially in the future. And then for us, we got to do something that was really cool, that I initially thought that the kids would love it and they do. But the reality is all ages love it. I hear the giggles and the, oh, you got to check this out from people who are way past being a kid, that’s for sure. So what we did was we, we, meaning me, in this startup company, developed a process where the artists could actually take their physical real world sculpture and bring it into augmented reality. And we actually essentially put it on a pedestal in the sculpture park.

Scott Price [00:46:01]:
So when you look at it, you just see a pedestal and then you download an app. We have free WI fi right there and a free high speed WI fi where you can download the app to your phone or your table tablet. And then, and then all of a sudden there’s this, there’s this sculpture sitting on top of the. The pedestal. You can even take your picture with it, but you can stand by it and take your picture with it, but it’s not actually there. It’s augmented reality. And it’s been fun. We’re actually on our second exhibition of the augmented reality sculptures right now and we’re now working on a third variation.

Scott Price [00:46:41]:
We’re going to keep the existing exc exhibition and then we’re going to take augmented reality into the sculpture forest and add augmented reality on top of existing sculptures. We’re working on that now. That doesn’t exist yet. We’re literally testing out ideas and things like that right now, that’s a pretty complicated process, but it looks like we’ll probably be able to do it. So we’re hoping that we might even be able to have that done later this year.

Scott Cowan [00:47:09]:
So how many augmented reality sculptures. Sculptures does the park have right now? Well, everyone, Scott and I lost connection. We lost the thread, and we were talking about augmented reality. So, Scott, I had a couple of questions about augmented reality. You’re baffling me with this one thing. You say that the visitor can, using their modern smart phone. Phone, whether it be Apple or Android or their tablet, they can take a picture of themselves with the sculpture. How on earth is that working?

Scott Price [00:47:48]:
Yeah, that’s actually a part of the app. So when you are using the app and you’re. You’re using the camera of your app, so you. You look through, let’s say, your phone, and you see the trees, you see the ground, you see the people you’re with, you see reality. And then when you, when you scan by the pedestal, oh, my gosh, wait a minute. There’s. There’s a large sculpture there, and you look around, and it’s not actually there in the air, but you look, you look through your camera, and it sure is there. You can.

Scott Price [00:48:23]:
You can walk around 360 degrees, you can bring your camera in real close and see fine detail. You can move back, you can look up, you can look down. I mean, it’s incredible, the detail that’s. That’s in these models. And so the app itself, when you are looking at reality, which might include either you or your friend standing beside the pedestal that has. It has a photo button, and you literally just tap the photo button in the app and it takes a photo and it puts it in with all your other photos on your camera or on your phone, through your camera. And yeah, it’s there, just like a regular, regular photo of you standing by a sculpture that actually was not physically there.

Scott Cowan [00:49:09]:
What does this require of the artist? How does the artist. What do they have to do to capture these images? That. Because if you’re saying 360 view, I can zoom in, I can zoom out. That means somebody’s had to take. Whether it’s like in the real estate space, they have, like, the Matterport camera. You might have heard of that before. You know, the 3D things. What are they using.

Scott Cowan [00:49:30]:
Using to capture the sculpture?

Scott Price [00:49:33]:
Yeah, well, that’s what this startup has done. They’ve enabled a way to make it straightforward for that user, meaning an artist. They don’t have to know anything about augmented reality. They don’t have to have technical coding skills or anything like that. There’s a lot of technical work on the back end, but that’s invisible to the artist. And literally through a series of videos and photos, through a specific process that this, the startup company has created. And it’s just, it’s a guide. It doesn’t actually take that long.

Scott Price [00:50:14]:
I mean they’ve created a guide. They tell what to do and then you upload the files to an online folder and then this company takes it and runs with it and you know what you’re seeing in August? Augmented reality. That’s not a video, that’s not a photo per se, but they’re able to extract the information from that and create a 3D model from it, which is the actual augmented reality, which allows you to walk around and look up and look down and look in and look out and that’s crazy, that kind of stuff. Yeah.

Scott Cowan [00:50:51]:
All right, that’s, that’s, that’s okay. We’re just gonna stop there because I could go way down that rabbit hole and hijack everything. Everything. I’m gonna, we’re gonna bring this one home. But I want to ask. You’ve got volunteers. The park’s open year round park is free for visitors. Donations of course are welcomed.

Scott Cowan [00:51:12]:
What’s the busiest month?

Scott Price [00:51:16]:
Generally it seems to be August. It’s certainly, certainly July and August are the top two. Whidbey is a, well, certainly a well known tourist destination and the population certainly bulges in the summer. The difference of getting on a ferry in July and August versus the rest of the year and a little bit of June, a little bit of September is quite different compared to the rest of the year, that’s for sure. If you want to come on Saturday morning or Friday afternoon, you know, you can plan on a couple hours waiting at least, especially if it’s nice weather.

Scott Cowan [00:52:01]:
And earlier on whether, because this episode broke, you know, so I don’t know if it was in this first episode or where we were at, but you mentioned that some cleanup. You know, some of the sculptures have been in place for five years in the elements for five years. How much time do you spend and the volunteers spend maintaining this culture sculptures?

Scott Price [00:52:26]:
Yeah, quite a, quite a bit. We, a couple, several of our volunteers, my father Ken and some other volunteers, Craig and Cindy and myself all go around and work on cleaning various things and, and then on top of that, every once in a while, like what we’re doing this year, we’re really focusing on more deep cleaning. And what I by that is you know, there’s always the, the wipe off of the, the pollen and all that kind of stuff that kind of occurs on a regular basis. But after being outdoors, any material, no matter what it is, it’s going to get stuff on it, you know, whatever that is.

Scott Cowan [00:53:11]:
Right.

Scott Price [00:53:12]:
And you know, dirt from splattering rain or rain that comes down, or even in some cases it might have moss, you know, like, like for instance, on T. Rex, which is made of bark, I have to go down and every once in a while put moss killer on the bark, you know, because, because it’s otherwise, you know, to moss it’s just, just a decomposing tree. Right, right. Yeah. So you gotta, gotta, gotta treat it accordingly.

Scott Cowan [00:53:41]:
Well, before I ask you my, my questions, I ask all my guests. What have we not mentioned that we should have mentioned about the forest? What, what does the listener need to know that maybe we didn’t touch on?

Scott Price [00:53:57]:
Yeah, I, I would say one thing, one thing. I mentioned the themes and I, I think it, it might be interesting for folks to know we have two themes. Each is an individual loop. I mentioned the two loops. One is called Nature Nurse Nurtured. And it’s everything centered around the non human natural world. So most of the sculptures, not entirely, but most of the sculptures have a representation of that. And it could be inanimate parts like wind, or it could be animate parts like an eagle or something like that, you know, or many other things.

Scott Price [00:54:40]:
And then the other trail is called Whimsy Way. And, and that one is intended to show really the fun side of art. And it’s a wide range. Some of them are kind of funny and humorous. Some of them are whimsical, obviously by its name, Whimsy Way. And some of them are just kind of wild in their own way. So providing those two themes actually gives us a way to hone in on what we’re doing in terms of you’re either in or out. And then on top of that, it also provides some big themes that we’d like to do so that people have a positive experience.

Scott Price [00:55:24]:
Again. We’re, we’re about, we’re obviously a natural habitat, so we’re about nature. And then the Whimsy Way part is about the fact that that art can be fun. You know, it’s not just, it’s not just a snooty experience, you know, that some people have. I mean, we try to make art relatable to people. We have very high quality art. It’s not, it’s not, you know, it’s not stuff that is, is just, you know, from, from anywhere and anybody. But it’s very relatable.

Scott Price [00:55:58]:
And you know, we don’t, we, that’s another thing that’s really important to the experiences, you know, so that people come out really feeling that they’ve connected with art and nature. It’s not just, you know, looking at the black square on a wall that, you know, supposedly has some deep meaning and people just, you know, some people get that meaning and other people look at it and go, wow, that’s art, you know. And you know, so, you know, we really want people to be able to relate, you know, to the art and you know, very abstract art to clarify, you know, is completely valid on its own, but we really try to make sure that people have an experience that they can understand. And it’s part of our self guided tour too. It’s actually access through the, through phones and it includes for every sculpture there’s a video that is just like three to five minutes long interviewing each sculptor and he or she is actually standing right by the sculpture that you’re standing by. And so it’s like you walk along and if you’re in interested, interested to see the videos, you, it’s like every sculptor is literally standing there and you know, giving you a private tour. But then there’s also photos and, and text if you just like a quick scan kind of thing instead of seeing the videos.

Scott Cowan [00:57:17]:
I really like that idea. I really like that. Okay, so I’ve got one last question about the forest and it’s gonna be a hard question. Okay. I, I, I, I know that you may not answer this question, although I’m gonna hope that, that you do. So from your Frequently Asked questions page, it says, when is the sculpture force open? We are open every day of the year from 8am until 7pm or sunset, whichever occurs earlier. Okay. That’s the parameter.

Scott Price [00:57:45]:
Yes.

Scott Cowan [00:57:46]:
In your opinion, for you, and I’m only asking you to speak for yourself, not, not for potential viewers of the sculpture. For us, when’s your favorite time of the day, day to go to the forest?

Scott Price [00:57:59]:
Ah, interesting. I would say it depends upon time of year because the sun, you know, changes. If you say it’s at 4:00 clock, if you say, well, let’s say if it’s at 5:00 clock, if it’s December 21st at 5:00 clock, it’s a big difference than, you know, June 21st. But I really like it when there’s a certain part of the day when I’d say maybe about, about an hour before sunset, roughly where there are a lot of. There are several sculptures in particular, but there are a lot of sculptures that get this slanting light that shines on them. And for example, we have a wire mesh sculpture by Elizabeth Berrian, who is from Olympia. And it’s a three quarter size horse that’s with a 17 foot wingspan. It’s a pegasus and it’s up in the trees.

Scott Price [00:59:01]:
And many people who go through will actually. They don’t even see it. And we actually like that. In other words, there’s like this Where’s Waldo? Experience of, you know, the fact that some people don’t. Don’t find it is, is actually part of the fun, you know, because a lot of times these people are like, oh, I got to go back, I got to see it. You know, and then when people do see it, they’re like, oh, this is great. I see it. Can you see it? You know, and.

Scott Price [00:59:24]:
But there’s a certain angle where when you get light on it, it, it glows like it’s in a spotlight. And it’s so incredibly obvious. It’s like you, you could not miss it. But if you don’t have the sun on at a certain angle, it blends into the trees and actually people don’t see it. And that’s an example. There are other ones that, that’s. That. That time of day tends to be some really nice light shining on some of the sculpt sculptures through the, through the trees, you know, because what happens is it’s.

Scott Price [00:59:56]:
Is it’s coming in at an angle then as opposed to up above. You have the dark canopy and you don’t tend to get as much of the direct light.

Scott Cowan [01:00:07]:
So you, your family lives in Coopville, nearby?

Scott Price [01:00:10]:
Yes.

Scott Cowan [01:00:11]:
According to your site, you’re. You’re outdoorsy, traveling, hiking, camping, mountain biking, kayaking, cross country, country skiing, dabbling in just about everything else, including bungee jumping. Have you bungee jumped?

Scott Price [01:00:24]:
I have.

Scott Cowan [01:00:26]:
Can we keep. We’ll just move on. What? Okay, so you. I’m not gonna call you an adrenaline junkie, but bungee jumping is. Boy, man, that’s when I was younger. What activity do you want to try?

Scott Price [01:00:43]:
What I want to try. Interesting. Let’s see here. The one thing. It’s not a big deal, it’s certainly not something I would put up as an adrenaline junkie thing, but I have tried three different times to go on a hot air balloon. And every single time that I’ve gone, it has been canceled because of weather. And this has been going on for about 20 years. So to answer your question, it’s the first thing that pops to mind because I.

Scott Price [01:01:13]:
I’ve been trying to go on a hot air balloon. Obviously I let years go by between attempts, but that would probably be one. One thing I’d like to do. A lot of things that I, I like to do now are oriented to travel. My daughter and I do have dirt bikes and I. And I am thinking about maybe even doing some what they would call senior class, maybe dirt bike races. So that, that’s something that I. I would like to do in the near future.

Scott Price [01:01:42]:
Future.

Scott Cowan [01:01:42]:
Okay. I. Has your wife bungee jumped?

Scott Price [01:01:45]:
Yes.

Scott Cowan [01:01:47]:
Okay, so I got something for you. Go down to Mary Hill. Have you been down to Mary Hill Museum? They skateboard down that hill.

Scott Price [01:01:59]:
Yeah, I’m not sure if that one’s on my list, but.

Scott Cowan [01:02:01]:
Okay. All right. So I always ask my guests these questions. So number one, where’s a great place to get coffee on would be.

Scott Price [01:02:13]:
I will caveat my answer with the fact that I don’t drink coffee. So I’m a. I’m a freak of nature in the Pacific Northwest, apparently. I do go to a coffee shop. There’s actually a number of good coffee shops in the Coupeville area. I go to one in particular because it has. Has, I’m sure, very good coffee. I don’t know.

Scott Price [01:02:36]:
But it has a great chocolate peanut butter smoothie.

Scott Cowan [01:02:40]:
Yeah, that’s super solid. That’s super solid.

Scott Price [01:02:43]:
And that’s what I get. And it’s a place called Sunshine Drip, and it’s in Coupeville.

Scott Cowan [01:02:48]:
Sunshine Drip. But you get in the peanut butter smoothie, which I have to be honest with you, as much as I love coffee, if I walked in there and I saw that on the menu, if I didn’t have my blinders on for coffee, right. If I saw. Saw that, I would skip coffee, probably, or have both. I don’t know. Okay.

Scott Price [01:03:08]:
It’s very good. I. I used to get the traditional fruit smoothie kind of thing, and one time my daughter got the chocolate peanut butter smoothie and I said, hey, can I try a sip? And since then, I’ve never gotten a different. Any other type of smoothie.

Scott Cowan [01:03:22]:
All right.

Scott Price [01:03:23]:
It’s always that.

Scott Cowan [01:03:25]:
So because the fairies can be problematic, My plans to get to Whidbey were to get there in the morning, but it’s lunchtime now because I was late by the. Laid up by the. The ferry. So where should I grab lunch?

Scott Price [01:03:38]:
Yeah. So in. In Coupeville, there are also a number of good lunch spots. The one that comes to mind that offers more than food, and that’s why I would recommend it is a place called Beaver Tales. And they have good food. But you know, there are other places that have good food as well. In Coupeville. The, the thing that makes this place special or several things, it’s, it’s in a, a built over 100 years ago on the end of a wharf in Coupeville.

Scott Price [01:04:10]:
So it’s literally over the water. And when you get your food there, you can take it outside on the picnic tables and you get this panoramic view of Penn Cove. So it’s one thing that’s pretty unique and then it’s also been formed by a mixed couple Native Americans. And they are making it into a Native American cultural hub, which is an interesting thing. That’s, that’s kind of, that’s taking root. And then the third aspect that’s related to what I just mentioned is that the Coupeville area or the Coupeville downtown was just certified by the state of Washington as a creative district. And this place, Beaver Tales, is a place that is going to be used for events and things like that. So it has a creative element to it as well.

Scott Price [01:05:05]:
Well, and we’re a partner with that creative district element. So. Yeah. So, you know, it’s got good food, but it’s got, it’s got more, more depth to it than that.

Scott Cowan [01:05:15]:
That’s wonderful. All right, my final question of you. And I warned you about this question. I warned you that it was going to be really, really hard. Demanding question, hard hitting journalism, whatever you want to say. Okay, you ready?

Scott Price [01:05:27]:
Okay, here we go.

Scott Cowan [01:05:29]:
Cake or pop pie? And why.

Scott Price [01:05:34]:
Which do I prefer? I would say pie.

Scott Cowan [01:05:40]:
All right.

Scott Price [01:05:41]:
Although I like both and I do have a sweet tooth. And the. Why is that cake? I so frequently have to have to scrape off the frosting because it’s like, it’s just too much. You know, that’s one thing. And then on the pie side, I, I really like the, the combination of, of the, the hard, harder, but flaky crust with the fruit and the, you know, the gooey, syrupy interior. And you get that contrast more than you get with cake. With cake it’s kind of like spongy stuff with frosting on it generally. I know it can be more than that, but whereas with pie you get that mixture and then actually I really like ice cream too.

Scott Price [01:06:31]:
And ice cream goes really well with pie.

Scott Cowan [01:06:35]:
What type of pie?

Scott Price [01:06:38]:
Actually, the classic. There’s many types of pie I like, but I really like apple pie. I enjoy that.

Scott Cowan [01:06:47]:
So Follow up question. Because I’m trying to.

Scott Price [01:06:50]:
To.

Scott Cowan [01:06:53]:
This is good natured research. Okay. I’m trying to determine if there’s a correlation between what you grew, what your household had when you were growing up versus what you like now. So when you were a kid growing up, did you guys have a lot of cake? Did you have a lot of pie? What. What was the. The dessert of. Of your family’s choice?

Scott Price [01:07:13]:
I would say we had more actual cake than pie. Pie tended to be holidays, maybe Thanksgiving, perhaps Christmas. But cake would be certainly for birthdays, but. But also other times as well, probably more cake than pie.

Scott Cowan [01:07:32]:
Interesting. All right, well, Scott, thank you. This is. I’m looking forward to coming up to the island. I’ve. I’ve got a number of things I have to go to the island for, which is a really wonderful opportunity. In fact, maybe I’m getting to the point where I’ve got more. More things to do.

Scott Cowan [01:07:47]:
Then I’m going to need more time, which is great. But I’m looking forward to going to the forest and walking around. The augmented reality thing is I’m still trying to wrap my brain around it. I get it. But I’m still. I know I’m going to be amused by the idea of it. I’ll probably like, oh, this is kind of cool. And when I walk around going, how can I take a selfie? Anyway, that, to me, I’ve got a C to really process.

Scott Cowan [01:08:16]:
And I’m just, I’m really, I’m really intrigued by the fact that you, you bought a bunch of land, you’re going to use it for a house. Didn’t work. Most people would have just sold. Sold it off and not necessarily had, I don’t want to say a care, but you would have just sold it to somebody who had purchased it and maybe developed it. Who knows what they would have done with it. They certainly probably wouldn’t have put a sculpture for us there. But you stopped, you paused, you reassessed. You spent seven years planning this thing.

Scott Cowan [01:08:51]:
Now you’ve got a lot of time into this thing and, and you, and you. You’re giving it to the community. That. I just really am impressed and think we need more people doing things like this. Then.

Scott Price [01:09:06]:
Well, thank you. Thank you very much, Scott. That’s very kind of you.

Scott Cowan [01:09:09]:
Yeah, I really. Kudos to you and your family for doing this. So thank you so much for being.

Scott Price [01:09:13]:
On the show and also thank you, Fun.

Scott Cowan [01:09:16]:
Thank you for being so patient with technology because you and I have certainly had our challenges making this happen. So I appreciate you getting us to.

Scott Price [01:09:22]:
The finish line and it has happened.

Scott Cowan [01:09:25]:
Yes. All right. Thanks, Scott.

Scott Price [01:09:27]:
Thank you.