Exploring Washington’s Autumn: Photography, Adventure, and Life on a Boat with Lisa Mize

Exploring Washington: Autumn Photography, Iconic Landscapes, and Life on a Boat

Washington State is a photographer’s paradise, offering a rich diversity of landscapes—from the North Cascades to the waters of Puget Sound. Photographer Lisa Mize captures this beauty while living full-time on a boat. In a recent Exploring Washington State Podcast episode, Lisa shared her photography journey and unique lifestyle.

From Film to Digital

Lisa’s passion for photography began with family photos during the “film days,” capturing memories of her children. As she started hiking Washington’s trails, her focus shifted to landscapes. She transitioned from film to digital with a Pentax camera, later embracing Nikon’s mirrorless cameras for their efficiency and advanced features. Despite her professional gear, Lisa often uses her iPhone, saying, “The camera you have with you is better than no camera.”

Capturing Autumn in Washington

Autumn is Lisa’s favorite season for photography, and her work has been featured on Explore Washington State. Lisa captures stunning fall road trip scenes from Mount Baker’s Artist Point to the North Cascades Highway. One standout shot is of a Japanese maple tree at Kubota Garden, a photo that has captivated her audience. Her secret? Patience, persistence, and finding the right light.

Sharing Knowledge

Lisa is passionate about teaching others, offering workshops that take photographers to some of Washington’s most scenic spots. Her workshops focus on helping participants find their unique compositions. She emphasizes that great shots take time and practice. Only two out of 30 photos of the Kubota Garden tree stood out as exceptional. Her advice for beginners: Don’t be discouraged by the numbers.

Life on a Boat

Lisa has lived on a 42-foot powerboat in Puget Sound for the past four years. While boat life presents challenges like cold winters and small hot water tanks, the breathtaking views of the Olympic Mountains and sunsets make it worthwhile. Lisa cherishes her lifestyle, which complements her passion for capturing Washington’s natural beauty.

Looking Forward

As Lisa continues to explore and photograph Washington’s landscapes, she remains dedicated to sharing her experiences through her workshops and personal work. Her advice? “Just go and see.” Whether you’re an aspiring photographer or a seasoned traveler, Washington’s beauty awaits you.

With her camera and adventurous spirit, Lisa reminds us to appreciate the beauty around us—whether on a hike through the Cascades or from the deck of a boat in Puget Sound.

Lisa Mize Episode Transcript

Hello, friends, and welcome to the Exploring Washington State podcast. My name is Scott Cowan, and I’m the host of the show. Each episode, I have a conversation with an interesting guest who is living in or from Washington State. These are casual conversations with real and interesting people. I think you’re gonna like the show. So let’s jump right in with today’s guest. I am sitting down. And if you folks knew any of the headache that Lisa has just put up with with me about tech, she’s sitting on a boat right now.

Scott Cowan [00:00:34]:

Everything worked perfectly. I’m sitting in my studio. Nothing works. So sometimes you just never know what we’re gonna get. But Lisa, welcome. Thank you for getting here.

Lisa Mize [00:00:43]:

Thanks for

Scott Cowan [00:00:44]:

having me. I’m wanna give the audience a little bit of a backstory. You have written 7 articles for us on Explore Washington State over the last 3 years. And most recent article was on autumn photography, and I thought it would be great to sit down with you and kinda, a, let’s talk about Autumn because that’s the time of year this is gonna get published. And b, what’s your photography journey? So let’s start there. What got you into photography?

Lisa Mize [00:01:15]:

When my kids were younger, I just, you know, back in the film days, started taking photos of them, and then all of a sudden realized, I really like this. I really enjoy the, you know, capturing their looks and, you know, those types of things. And, so it just started growing from there. And, and then I started hiking, and I wanted a way to capture and, keep those memories, and so started carrying a camera with me. And and, so that’s where I started falling in love with landscape.

Scott Cowan [00:01:50]:

Do you miss film? No. Do you

Lisa Mize [00:01:55]:

Not at all.

Scott Cowan [00:01:57]:

You don’t miss film. Okay.

Lisa Mize[00:01:59]:

No. Especially during the learning time. You know? It it’s like I could do better now with with film, but all that all the learning, it it’s no. It would’ve cost so much money to to to, you know, get that film developed.

Scott Cowan [00:02:15]:

So I want you to think back to your first digital camera. Mhmm. Do you remember when you made the transition from film to digital? Yes. What did you start shooting with?

Lisa Mize [00:02:27]:

It was a Pentex, and I don’t remember the model number. Okay. It was so long ago. It was when over here in Shoreline, Aurora Village still existed instead of the Costco that it is now.

Scott Cowan [00:02:40]:

Okay. Okay.

Lisa Mize [00:02:41]:

So I bought it there, and so it was a long time ago.

Scott Cowan [00:02:45]:

Yeah. I’ve I I found some of the old digital cameras that I’ve had through the years. And, the tech has improved, obviously, but the thing the the massive improvement to me is the storage capabilities of these devices. The little how much, you know, how big is the the card that you’re using to store? I’ve got a couple of cameras that allow multiple SD cards, so they’re taking backup, you know, for you, things like that. So and then, you know, we went from, you know, d DSLRs. Now we’re in mirrorless cameras that are even lighter. They’re smaller. And then I’m gonna guess the vast majority of us, we use these things.

Scott Cowan [00:03:27]:

I’m holding up my iPhone at the moment. Yeah. You know, we carry our iPhones with us, and frankly, there are better cameras than the Airphones. It’s pretty amazing that how the tech has changed.

Lisa Mize [00:03:37]:

So true.

Scott Cowan [00:03:38]:

And so you started you started with film and taking shots to the kids, and then you got into hiking. And and then we’re gonna we’re gonna get to hiking at some point during this conversation, I know. But, you have to appreciate the the how light everything has gotten for your your your your your taking a hike up in the North Cascades, let’s say, not carrying £10 of gear with you anymore. You can get away with, you know, £3 or £4 of

Lisa Mize [00:04:05]:

of gear. I can carry 12.

Scott Cowan [00:04:07]:

£1212 of gear? Okay. Uh-huh. Alright. But what would that have been? You know? So how many lenses are you okay. So let me put you on the spot. So your last, let’s think I want you to think back to the last time you were out, which is fairly recently based on our phone call. Mhmm. What gear did you take with you?

Lisa Mize [00:04:25]:

My body, the, two lenses. Sometimes if there’s gonna be wildlife, I’ll take my 3rd lens, which is, goes up to 500 millimeters, and it it alone weighs £5. So, actually, that bumps me to £17 when I carry that. And then tripod too.

Scott Cowan [00:04:47]:

So What type of tripod are you what what do you what’s your travel tripod? What do you carry?

Lisa Mize [00:04:54]:

I don’t know. One that works.

Scott Cowan [00:04:56]:

One that works. But see see, that’s the thing. I overthink everything, and, and your I like your attitude better one that works. There you go.

Lisa Mize [00:05:04]:

I did switch to, the ball head

Scott Cowan [00:05:08]:

Mhmm.

Lisa Mize [00:05:09]:

And from the really cheap one I used to have. But, so, yeah, enjoying that. But I do have a lighter one that I take, when I am out hiking, and my good tripod is is a little bit heavier, and I just use that one, not hiking.

Scott Cowan [00:05:29]:

Okay. So currently, your camera body is what do you what’s your camera body these days?

Lisa Mize [00:05:34]:

A Nikon Z6 mirrorless.

Scott Cowan [00:05:38]:

So I’m gonna poke the bear because there seems to be this brand loyalty in photographers. And I get it. The ecosystem, you invest in lenses, you don’t wanna move over to a new ecosystem. I’m a Nikon I I I have Nikons as well, so we’re we’re on the same page. But what made you decide to go Nikon?

Lisa Mize [00:06:04]:

You know, I really don’t remember. I think I just started researching a little bit. Maybe I had a friend that that had one. I actually don’t completely remember. And so my after my Pentax, my next one, I just chose Nikon and kept going with that.

Scott Cowan [00:06:25]:

I have 22 good friends who are hobbyists photographers. 1 has a very well established Canon system, and the other has a very established Nikon system. Neither one was offering me any free gear when I decided. And so I ended up I think I think I got a I thought I got a more value for the money with the Nikon at the time that I made that decision. Been completely pleased with it. But I do I do have a Sony, ZV 1. Have you seen those a little they’re about the size of a deck of cards?

Lisa Mize [00:06:59]:

I’ve just seen a photo of them. Yeah.

Scott Cowan [00:07:01]:

They’re for something that you can throw in your back pocket, it’s pretty cool.

Lisa Mize [00:07:06]:

So Awesome. But is your cell phone still better?

Scott Cowan [00:07:10]:

It’s better because it’s always with me. Yeah. I mean, that’s the truth. I use it I use it all the time. I’m I’m not a good photographer. I’m grabbing quick snapshots of my dog when I think he’s being either cute or obnoxious, and I need proof to prove that it wasn’t me. You know, and so the phone the phone is with me. I caught him earlier today in our in our pond, and I had to I’m I’m gonna have to use that proof to my wife that, you know, this is why he stinks, not because you know? Yes.

Scott Cowan [00:07:41]:

But I’m, you know, I’m a proponent kind of the the camera that you have is better than not having a camera with you.

Lisa Mize [00:07:47]:

I mean Yep.

Scott Cowan [00:07:48]:

I agree. And I could I I guarantee you I could use your gear and take horrible shots with it. I could just you know, I could. And Yeah. So I wanna talk about this this our latest article that you wrote for us because it’s it is timely to this conversation. It’s timely to something that you’re doing. And you wrote an article on autumn autumn travels in Washington state, and you gave 3 road trip ideas. We wanna talk about those.

Scott Cowan [00:08:15]:

But before we talk about the the the details of the article, when you sent me everything over, you said, hey. I’d like to use this image as the as the featured image. I I wanna and and podcasting is an audio format, so I’m gonna encourage everybody. I’ll put a link in the show notes to go to go look at this article so that you see this image that we’re we’re talking about. But this is a a tree.

Lisa Mize [00:08:43]:

Yes.

Scott Cowan [00:08:44]:

I would like you, for my own personal, knowledge, walk me through your process to get to capture that image.

Lisa Mize [00:08:57]:

That’s great. It’s first of all, it’s at Kubota Gardens, rent in South Seattle area. I had seen photos of it from other photographers, and I’m like, I need to find this tree. And so, finally, the, you know, conditions were right, and I headed to down to the gardens. And I’m walking all over the gardens because I have no idea where this tree is. And, and there’s lots of trees that kinda look similar to it, but I could tell it wasn’t that tree. All of a sudden, I’m walking down this path, and I could hear these voices coming from inside a tree. And I’m just like, I think I found it.

Lisa Mize [00:09:41]:

And so I walked around until I could get in, and sure enough, there were, like, 3 photographers standing. I mean, you seriously go inside underneath this tree. It is so grand. And, and then I had to wait for them very patiently or not so patiently. Not sure. But I didn’t wanna go too far away, so then I’m just wandering around shooting other, beautiful scenes in the area until they finally stepped out, and I could get in and and, set my shot up. And and then another gal came in and, you know, there’s plenty of room for multiple people under there, and so we’re chatting, talking, and and getting those photos.

Scott Cowan [00:10:25]:

So the photo that you have on it’s on the slider on your front page of your website. It looks to me to be at least very similar to the the same image that we’re using on the article of, you know, it’s the same tree, at least maybe a different shot of it. Yes. How many shots did you take that day of that tree?

Lisa Mize [00:10:43]:

Oh, good question. Probably, 30, maybe. Okay. Because I did some close ups, full back, you know, partials. K. You could see the the sky, in those photos. Sometimes it was a little distracting where the where the sun was. So, yeah, few different compositions of it.

Scott Cowan [00:11:07]:

When you were done, you know, you finished up your shooting, you I’ll say came home, went to your studio, whatever you wanna say. You uploaded all the images from your camera to your your computer that you use. Did any of those 30 shots really pop out to you? Was there was there a clear cut like, oh, I nailed it with this?

Lisa Mize [00:11:30]:

I think I got a couple, actually. Okay. They were so similar. Like, I didn’t even yeah. Same composition, I guess, to to answer that. But, but there were a few that yeah.

Scott Cowan [00:11:45]:

K.

Lisa Mize [00:11:45]:

That I really liked.

Scott Cowan [00:11:48]:

How much post processing did you do on that image?

Lisa Mize [00:11:52]:

For those, not much. Really? I use I use Lightroom. Mhmm. Photoshop scares me. I barely just started using Photoshop if I need to remove something out of a, like, a wire or a trash can that I missed or something like that. But Lightroom and, I don’t hit I stay away from the saturation slider.

Scott Cowan [00:12:19]:

Really?

Lisa Mize [00:12:20]:

Yeah. I don’t like hitting that. I I try once in a while, I’ll need to do it a little bit.

Scott Cowan [00:12:26]:

Mhmm.

Lisa Mize [00:12:27]:

But I try not to to touch that one. So lifting shadows, bringing down those highlights, like I mentioned in the sky that were that was keeping through, and a lot of contrast. I like contrast.

Scott Cowan [00:12:41]:

Yeah. It’s it’s an amazing image that looks like it’s been edited in post a lot. And and and which isn’t that’s not meant to be a a a negative, but it’s even more impressive to hear you say you didn’t really you didn’t hit the saturation because it this is a it’s a beautiful image.

Lisa Mize [00:13:00]:

Thank you.

Scott Cowan [00:13:01]:

And and because it’s that time of year here in Washington where, you know, we we get that fall color and all of that, that is so I mean, it can be so Yeah. Amazing. Your well, let’s talk about let let’s talk about the the course that you’ve got coming up that’s first off, what’s the so if you’re listening to this, this may or may not be relevant to you after a certain period of time, listener, but I think we’re gonna have some value for you anyway even if the course isn’t available. So, Lisa, when is this course, gonna happen?

Lisa Mize [00:13:41]:

There’s actually 3 different ones available. The first one’s September 29th, and that one goes out towards Mount Baker up to Artist Point. And then, October 5th, which is a Saturday, is highway 2 all the way into, Lake Wenatchee down to Leavenworth. Alright. And workshop number 3 is on Sunday, October 6th, and that’s out, Highway 20, going all the way to which is the North Cascades Highway, with the larches and everything

Scott Cowan [00:14:18]:

Right.

Lisa Mize [00:14:19]:

Up to Lake Diablo is as far as we’ll go. I wanna go into Wickham, but that’s just too far for a day.

Scott Cowan [00:14:26]:

There’s nothing good to photograph at Lake Diablo. Let’s I mean, no.

Lisa Mize [00:14:33]:

Nothing at all. That lakes are fed lake. Yeah. It’s snow. No.

Scott Cowan [00:14:38]:

I’m almost wondering because Lake Diablo has popped up on my radar a lot in 2024. Mhmm. I’m almost of the opinion that it may be the single most photographed location in Washington state, even maybe beyond Mount Rainier. I mean, probably not, but it certainly seems like it’s in everybody’s periphery this year. Everybody seems to be focused on on that lake. And, why do you think that is? I mean, besides, it’s obviously gorgeous.

Lisa Mize [00:15:21]:

It’s gorgeous. It’s easy to get to. It’s right there on the side of the road. If you’re wherever you’re going, if you’re out for a day drive or if you’re headed to a hike out on the North Cascades, headed to Winthrop, it’s just right there, and all you have to do is park your car and step outside. And then we don’t have many lakes that color, and, it’s phenomenal. Now mind you, on some overcast days, you just heads up. You might not get the that vibrant green turquoise. It’s not always like that, but it is a lot.

Scott Cowan [00:15:58]:

It is a lot. Even I got some good looking shots out of that, and from just from the the the the public area. I mean

Lisa Mize [00:16:07]:

Mhmm.

Scott Cowan [00:16:08]:

Without, you know and I stayed behind the lines. I mean, I didn’t climb over. There’s this There are some people out having a picnic one day, and they were sitting on this this ledge. And I’m like, oh, that looks like a oh, I bet the view’s better there. I yeah. I do wanna be a statistic.

Lisa Mize [00:16:24]:

No. No. I’m I’m a big supporter of staying behind those fences.

Scott Cowan [00:16:30]:

So you have you have 3 workshops. How many people can be let’s let’s talk the specifics of the workshops. How many what what would somebody expect?

Lisa Mize [00:16:42]:

First off, it we’re keeping to 6 people. Okay. So I can do a lot of 1 on 1, and group teaching. So I’m gonna do a a, like, half hour Zoom call before we go, just going over what we’re gonna what we’re gonna do, what we’re gonna see, some basic photography, information, you know, type thing. And then we’ll pick up at a at a specific place and hit the road, and and I’ve gone, and driven these roads many times and, actually, last week, just drove them all again to to pick out where I was stopping. And so we’ll do some super iconic places like Diablo, Picture Lake up by, Mount Baker and, you know, those kinda Leavenworth, of course. But, I have some out of the way little places that I like to go. And, and so at each stop, we’re gonna focus on a specific lesson, specific idea, and and then take some time at each place.

Lisa Mize [00:17:57]:

And

Scott Cowan [00:17:58]:

And how long do you anticipate each workshop to take from beginning to end?

Lisa Mize[00:18:03]:

9 AM to 5 PM.

Scott Cowan [00:18:05]:

9 to 5. Okay.

Lisa Mize [00:18:07]:

Yeah. And then, like, a week later or so, we’re gonna do a post, workshop Zoom call to go over people’s favorite images they took, do some gentle critique maybe if they want. They don’t have to. It’s up to them if they want that, and ask more questions and just lots of encouragement, lots of ins inspiration. I believe everybody’s a creator, or a creative, and, and and so I don’t want people to think that, oh, they’re not getting the shot I took or, a shot they saw online. You know? I when I go to photograph somewhere, I’ll I’ll find some place I really wanna go. It’s like, oh, that looks amazing. And I’ll take that shot to, you know, copy what another photographer has done, but then I try to find my own composition.

Lisa Mize [00:19:01]:

And, you know, if it’s just moving my feet somewhere else or a zoom lens or a wide angle lens or, you know, just change it up and and make it mine. And so that’s really what I wanna get across to everybody is we don’t have to copy each other for a good image. You can make your own good image.

Scott Cowan [00:19:22]:

Right. 100% agree. It is, you know, it’s I think it’s how do I wanna say this? For somebody who’s starting out, let’s say with photography, emulating a shot, an iconic shot, going and taking your version of that iconic shot, I think good to help build a little bit of confidence in yourself. Right?

Lisa Mize [00:19:48]:

Yep. Very true.

Scott Cowan [00:19:49]:

I think I think going from that and then putting your your take on it, like you said, just moving your feet even. But, you know, if you’re taking a picture of of Lake Diablo and you took it on Tuesday at 2 PM and I go out there Thursday at 3 PM, I can’t get the same shot.

Lisa Mize [00:20:10]:

Very true.

Scott Cowan [00:20:10]:

I mean, I can stand in the same place. I’m taller than you, but I could, you know, we could I could use the same exact camera, you know, put it on a tripod, get the same height, but it’s still gonna be different. True. And I think we need to as as creative people, I think we’re too hard on ourselves sometimes. Yeah. We just do. And so I I kind of appreciate what you’re saying because I think that you need practice. You need to swing the bat, and not everything’s gonna be a home run.

Scott Cowan [00:20:45]:

I mean, that’s mixing metaphors here. But, you know, not everything’s perfect. I mean, you took 30 shots of that tree. You think you had 2. Right? Alright. Well, that’s less than 10% that you think are really worthy. I’m not saying the other 28 are bad, but less than 10% made you go, oh, this is this is what I want.

Lisa Mize [00:21:03]:

Correct.

Scott Cowan [00:21:05]:

And you’re you’re you’re a professional photographer. I I’m a I’m a hack, and I, you know, I’d, you know, be thrilled to get a 10% success rate. I’m gonna put you on the spot for all three of your workshops.

Lisa Mize [00:21:18]:

Okay.

Scott Cowan [00:21:20]:

I want you to tell me where you think the most iconic places on all three of us.

Lisa Mize [00:21:28]:

Picture Lake, at Mount Baker of of, sorry. Mount Shuckson. It’s at the Mount Bakersfield area.

Scott Cowan [00:21:36]:

Right.

Lisa Mize [00:21:37]:

But it’s Mount Shuckson. And I believe that is the most I read a while ago. That is the most photographed place in Washington state is Okay. Mount Jackson.

Scott Cowan [00:21:47]:

Is it? Alright. I’m hearing some noise in the background. Sorry. Is that, no. No. No. Is that the water hitting the hull of your boat?

Lisa Mize [00:21:55]:

It is. I just got hit with a big wake. So

Scott Cowan [00:21:58]:

So so funny. In in over 300 episodes, you’re the first person that’s recording an episode with us on the boat. So this is the first time we’ve ever had boat noises. That’s pretty funny. But that lets me transition because one of the articles that you wrote for us that was really very cool was, reasons to live on a boat in Puget Sound.

Lisa Mize [00:22:17]:

Yes.

Scott Cowan [00:22:20]:

For the audience that hasn’t read that article, why don’t you give me a couple of how many years have you lived on a boat now?

Lisa Mize [00:22:30]:

4.

Scott Cowan [00:22:31]:

4 years in full time?

Lisa Mize [00:22:33]:

4 years. Mhmm.

Scott Cowan [00:22:34]:

Full time.

Lisa Mize [00:22:35]:

Yep.

Scott Cowan [00:22:37]:

What do you like about it the most?

Lisa Mize [00:22:41]:

My view. My view. I’m we’re on an end tie, on the end of a dock all the way out, and all that’s between me and Puget Sound is the breakwater. And I get a view of the Olympics, beautiful sunsets, sailboats. Yeah. It’s Okay. It’s pretty amazing.

Scott Cowan [00:23:07]:

So so to help me in the audience, how how how long how large is the boat?

Lisa Mize [00:23:13]:

We live on a 42 foot Uniflight powerboat.

Scott Cowan [00:23:18]:

42 feet. So that’s a good sized boat. Not

Lisa Mize [00:23:21]:

Yeah. It’s

Scott Cowan [00:23:22]:

not Much bigger. Big.

Lisa [00:23:24]:

But Yes. Exactly.

Scott Cowan [00:23:25]:

Still a good sized boat. Okay. So it’s 2 of you living on this boat full time.

Lisa [00:23:29]:

Yes. K.

Scott Cowan [00:23:30]:

Alright. Putting you on the spot the opposite way. What’s the thing about living on a boat that you dislike the most?

Lisa [00:23:38]:

You know, my small hot water tank. That’s about it. And that’s gonna be upgraded here soon, so I will have a bigger hot water tank.

Scott Cowan [00:23:53]:

Can you put an on demand tank in a boat?

Lisa [00:23:57]:

Yeah. But it takes way too much power. But you can. It’s it’s just it’s more systems to break. So

Scott Cowan [00:24:04]:

Alright. We

Lisa [00:24:05]:

like doing it simple.

Scott Cowan [00:24:06]:

So hot showers are a a luxury that is not long lasting.

Lisa [00:24:15]:

Yes. Very short showers.

Scott Cowan [00:24:17]:

Alright. Alright. How often do you take the boat out? I mean, you’re living on it. So, you know, but you you do travel on it. Right? So how often do you do you do you take the boat out?

Lisa [00:24:29]:

Yeah. Here’s the thing. So we were taking it out often when we first bought her. And, and then my husband, John, who’s a fabulous do everything kinda guy, he started working on the engines because they were very neglected from the the older gentleman that owned it for the previous 20 years before we bought it. And so he went down to start working on the engines to replace some parts, and he started, you know, oh, need to do this with through it. Oh, need do this through it. Ended up there’s no more parts for those engines. So, we bought 2 used engines that are the kind he wants, and we’ve been rebuilding those ourselves, mostly him.

Lisa [00:25:18]:

But I I never knew I would add diesel marine mechanic to my list of what I am going to learn in my lifetime. And but it’s been a lot of fun, and so we’re getting really close to those being done. And then k. Then we’ll have those engines installed, then we will be gone all the time. San Juans, up and down Puget Sound. We intend to, go all the way to Alaska. Our boat’s been to Alaska twice be before, and so our plan is to to go up there and, all up and down, Vancouver Island, and around it and all that.

Scott Cowan [00:25:57]:

Before you decided to give up mainland living and live on a boat full time. Were you were you boat people before? Did you were you recreational boat users?

Lisa [00:26:10]:

Yes. We owned a sailboat, a 36

Scott Cowan [00:26:13]:

foot Okay.

Lisa [00:26:13]:

Janelle sailboat. And, we even teased out the idea of living on that, and I I just it was too small. And plus, I need lots of light. So we have windows that surround our entire boat. I need to be able to see out. We have lots of friends that live aboard sailboats, and they love it. And it’s like that it’s awesome. But I I needed for me, I needed the light and to be able to see out and not live beneath the waterline.

Lisa [00:26:48]:

So but I only got into sailing, when I met John, and he had been sailing before and, sailed some when he was young. And so he’s the one that that got me into it, and I absolutely fell in love with being on the water. I had no idea I was missing it my whole life. So

Scott Cowan [00:27:08]:

Have you ever offered any workshops, photography workshops around around the water?

Lisa [00:27:15]:

No. Not yet.

Scott Cowan [00:27:18]:

But I would think I would think that there would be a an interest in that.

Lisa [00:27:23]:

Yes. Yeah. When we’re moving and and we get our proper, captain’s licenses, I’d like to take out do wildlife photography, go up north, and do some wildlife photography.

Scott Cowan [00:27:35]:

Yeah. I think that would be I think that would be very interesting. Alright. How do I wanna phrase this? What I’m gonna put you on the spot as a as a as an artist, as a creative, as a photographer. Mhmm. What is something that you feel people need to know about getting a good shot? What’s what’s a technique or a way of framing a picture that you think is overlooked by people? I mean, you we can go online. You know, I can type in Google how to take a great photograph and get, you know, endless endless suggestions. Mhmm.

Scott Cowan [00:28:22]:

What do you think is an underutilized technique to getting a good photograph?

Lisa [00:28:31]:

Oh, interesting question. I would say for a beginner, I don’t know if this is underutilized, but for a beginner is not to shoot too much in one frame, because it can get so busy, and you don’t know where you need to be looking. You want your viewer to know what to be looking at. And if there’s too much, their eye just goes bounces all over inside the the frame or, you know, that photo, and it’s unsettling. There’s it doesn’t bring,

Scott Cowan [00:29:09]:

I

Lisa [00:29:09]:

don’t wanna use the word peace, but it doesn’t bring a solution or, you know, it’s like an a story that’s being written with no ending. You know? Mhmm. It’s, so you want something to tell the the viewer to be what they need to be looking at in a photo.

Scott Cowan [00:29:28]:

Let me see if I’m let me repeat this back in my language and see if I’m if I’m tracking. So you you feel that there should be a focal point of the of the composition.

Lisa [00:29:38]:

There we go. Yeah. Nicely. Yeah. Much better said.

Scott Cowan [00:29:41]:

Not not me just snapping photos, you know, oh, look, and and zoomed out and, you know, trying to take in all all of the the mountain, if you will. And, Yeah.

Lisa [00:29:52]:

And sometimes, you know, I’m at places and it’s the it’s so grand, you know, being up in the North Cascades or whatever, and it’s like, the mountains just go on and on forever. So you have to figure out how to to capture, you know, what you’re trying to show your your audience.

Scott Cowan [00:30:13]:

Okay. Sorry. I remember when we started this, I told you we I’m on my laptop for the first time, and and and I’m trying to use the trackpad to check something. And I realized that it’s actually tracking on my Mac behind me, and I don’t know how on earth that happened. So Wow. It’s the digital equivalent of seeing a squirrel run across the road, and I’m I’m I’m off looking at it. I apologize for that.

Lisa [00:30:38]:

Yay. Technology. Yay.

Scott Cowan [00:30:43]:

What do you want photography what do you want your photography to career to look like in the next couple of years? What what are you aiming towards?

Lisa [00:30:54]:

I really am now focusing a lot on teaching, helping people, that wanna learn. I just wanna share my knowledge. I basically am self taught, most you know, using YouTube and reading articles and, looking at pictures and, but, you know, I don’t have a degree, you know, or anything like that. It’s just I’ve just muddled my way through, and I would love to be able to help the next person not, not take so long basically to to learn some some skills. And and the other passion of mine is to continue to share my work with people, that can’t go to the locations that, that I’m blessed to go to all over the world, really. Excuse me. And, so I share a lot of my work on on Facebook and Instagram, but mostly Facebook. I get people almost daily, really daily, thanking me for sharing.

Lisa [00:32:08]:

And, you know, for some reason, health reasons, age, maybe they’re even alone. They they just can’t go to these places, and they’re they’re truly grateful for, getting to see, these locations through my eyes. And Mhmm. And that actually brings me a lot of joy, and and I’m thrilled to be able to be able to do that.

Scott Cowan [00:32:37]:

That’s that’s very interesting to me. It seems very obvious, but it’s very interesting. You know what I mean by that is, what a great way of looking at that. You’re the images that you’re capturing and sharing are visible to somebody with a computer or a phone. You know, let’s let’s be honest. Phones are computers. But, you know, with a screen, they have access to a screen, and you’re sharing them, and they can be transported to that location. For whatever reason, they’re not able to be transported there in person, you’re providing them with your interpretation of the of what you’ve looked at.

Scott Cowan [00:33:14]:

I think that’s I I really never thought about like that, but it’s really obvious when you said it. So kudos to you.

Lisa [00:33:21]:

Thank you.

Scott Cowan [00:33:24]:

I always like putting a guest on the spot in a good way. So this is kind of good nature. What don’t you like taking photos of?

Lisa [00:33:33]:

Weddings. I will never take photos of a wedding. Actually, I’ve done a couple itty bitty weddings, but, that, yeah, weddings will I get asked all the time. I’m like, nope. Sorry.

Scott Cowan [00:33:47]:

So so there why not? Why why don’t you wanna take photos of weddings?

Lisa [00:33:52]:

There’s no do overs. If my gear locks up, I make a mistake, I miss the first kiss, you know, all these things. I’m like, nope. Pressure’s too much.

Scott Cowan [00:34:03]:

Yeah. That’s

Lisa [00:34:04]:

Too much. So kudos to those those, wedding photographers out there because they’re they’re heroes in my eyes because there’s just no way. But high school seniors headshots, if something gets messed up, I can redo. Never had to.

Scott Cowan [00:34:21]:

Right. But you could.

Lisa [00:34:22]:

But but I could.

Scott Cowan [00:34:25]:

Well, and then there’s and also if if I I’m trying to be humorous here, but as a wedding photographer, I don’t think I’d wanna deal with Bridezilla. And and let’s be honest, as stressed out as you would be as the photographer, the bride and groom are just as they’re stressed too. I mean and so it’s just to me, it just seems like a a perfect storm of anxiety that I would Yeah. I would I agree with you. I would not wanna do that.

Lisa [00:34:55]:

Yeah. I’ve been a wedding coordinator for, you know, 20 years almost, and just off and on, I’ve been

Scott Cowan [00:35:05]:

you

Lisa [00:35:05]:

know, I’ll go periods of time. I just now do it for friends and family. Okay. But yeah. So I I fully understand.

Scott Cowan [00:35:13]:

Yeah. I just, I just oh, no. No. No. Thanks. Because I keep at Washington state.

Lisa [00:35:21]:

Mhmm.

Scott Cowan [00:35:23]:

Where in Washington have you not gone to take photos that you’d like to?

Lisa [00:35:30]:

Mount Adams and Mount, Saint Helens. I, yeah, I was planning a road trip here a couple weeks ago to go down there, and, and then with all the wildfires down there with so many roads closed and the smoke, and, I didn’t get to go. So, that is that is on my list.

Scott Cowan [00:35:51]:

Okay. Anywhere else?

Lisa [00:35:56]:

I would love to, Northeast Washington State, North of Spokane. I haven’t spent any time out there. That’s another location I’d like to go.

Scott Cowan [00:36:08]:

But bonus bonus points for you to answer the the this question properly. How do you properly say the name of the county above Spokane?

Lisa [00:36:21]:

I don’t know. I don’t even know what it is.

Scott Cowan [00:36:23]:

It’s Pend Oreille, but it looks like Oh. It looks like Pandoreal to me. I’ve always, you know, always mispronounced that.

Lisa [00:36:31]:

Yeah. When I go into Idaho and into Montana, I I read those signs over and over, and I can never get it right.

Scott Cowan [00:36:40]:

I’m I’m with you. I I haven’t spent a lot of time up there in that northeast corner, and, there’s some really cool things up there that I need to I wanna go I I wanna go out and see myself too. So alright. Do you do a lot of photography in Seattle? Are you are you a big, city photographer? Does that work for you? Are you interested in that?

Lisa [00:37:02]:

You know, for a while, I huge strive to do a lot of street photography, and I did some.

Scott Cowan [00:37:08]:

Mhmm. And

Lisa [00:37:08]:

I have done done a little bit in Italy, and, and I really had a passion for it for a little while, but then I think landscape and just overtook. And so I don’t spend a lot of time, doing that type of shooting anymore.

Scott Cowan [00:37:26]:

Alright. Well, everybody needs their their niche. You know? And I and I think that we can’t it’s good to focus on something. You know? Mhmm. Alright. So this is the part of the show where I gotta ask you some very specific questions.

Lisa [00:37:44]:

Alright.

Scott Cowan [00:37:44]:

They’re they’re they’re very important to me. So you live on a boat

Lisa [00:37:50]:

Yes.

Scott Cowan [00:37:52]:

In the Seattle area. Correct. So this should be an easy question for you. Where’s a great place for me to get coffee around your area of the world?

Lisa [00:38:04]:

On my boat.

Scott Cowan [00:38:06]:

Alright. So I’ll play along. How does one make great coffee on a boat? Because you don’t have a lot of space. What do you what’s your coffee setup like?

Lisa [00:38:17]:

Well, this is where you’re will be so disappointed in me. I drink instant. It’s really bad. I know. But, no. My husband makes amazing coffee when he you know, we’ve done, you know, pour overs and the, you know, all that kinda thing, but, just because our view’s amazing. But to truly answer your question, I just, for the first time, went to this, adorable cafe with a girlfriend, and it’s called Red Arrow. And it it’s, few miles from couple miles from here, but, it’s absolutely adorable.

Lisa [00:39:00]:

And you, like, walk through this this gate. Mhmm. And there’s, you know, vines and stuff all over and a fence. It’s just this tiny little thing, and you walk back into this really small cafe, and they have that wonderful I just got a cappuccino, and, it was fantastic. And the setting was beautiful, and they do sweets, and I think they do some sandwiches or something too.

Scott Cowan [00:39:28]:

Okay. So you got a cappuccino. Is a cappuccino your kinda go to when you’re out having coffee?

Lisa [00:39:35]:

Yeah. Often, I just do drip. I’m just Mhmm. I’m not a snob.

Scott Cowan [00:39:39]:

Do you know? No. I’m I am a I I drink I started drinking instant coffee as a as a young kid around the the kitchen table at home. Right? So I can’t I could tease you, but I can’t tease you because my roots go back to that as well. Right? I’m a I’m a huge proponent of really good plain brewed coffee, whether it be a French press or or or, you know, a pour over. I I’m not a fan. I’m not you you’ll you’ll never catch me ordering, you know, an oat milk with half a pack of the Splenda, you know, in in hazelnut. You know, that that doesn’t work for me. That’s just not what I like.

Scott Cowan [00:40:24]:

I like good, just, simple coffee. Yeah. Now will I drink coffee at Denny’s? Yes. Will I will I like it? Not particularly. But I like

Lisa [00:40:39]:

some coffee. Cafes have good drip coffee.

Scott Cowan [00:40:43]:

Yeah. Alright. So then around you, because the other thing, I like coffee, but, you know, I eat, good lunchtime spot. What’s a good place to grab lunch?

Lisa [00:40:55]:

I would say. What? It’s Caribbean food, and it’s just across the, basically across the street from here. And they have 3 locations, but they are fabulous. Absolutely fabulous.

Scott Cowan [00:41:16]:

I know nothing about Caribbean food. What what would you

Lisa [00:41:19]:

I didn’t either.

Scott Cowan [00:41:20]:

Well, you but you say they’re fabulous. So what what what are you thinking is fabulous? What what’s like, what would you try? What would you have me try?

Lisa [00:41:27]:

Pretty much anything on the menu, unless it has jalapenos in it, then I don’t. But, don’t like hot spice.

Scott Cowan [00:41:34]:

Okay.

Lisa [00:41:35]:

But our go to, is my husband and I, we share it’s called a Caribbean roll, and it has jasmine rice, beans, cheese, sour cream, pickled, onions, and then either pork or chicken depending how we’re feeling that day. And,

Scott Cowan [00:41:57]:

and

Lisa [00:41:57]:

then we split it. It’s as big as your head. It’s so big.

Scott Cowan [00:42:01]:

Like a burrito type thing or more Yeah.

Lisa [00:42:03]:

It’s wrapped in a this one’s wrapped in a flour tortilla.

Scott Cowan [00:42:06]:

Okay. So it’s more like it’s a it’s a Caribbean take then on a on what I’ll say is a burrito for you know?

Lisa [00:42:12]:

Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Okay. And they have sandwiches is their, you know, their thing, and then they have bowls and

Scott Cowan [00:42:20]:

Mhmm.

Lisa [00:42:21]:

Those types of things too. Mhmm. That sounds really grown. Yeah. We like the wrap.

Scott Cowan [00:42:27]:

I I ask, you know, I ask every guest coffee in place for lunch, and, I don’t think anybody else so far has ever said Caribbean food. So you you got 2 firsts on this episode. You’re you’re recording in a boat and Caribbean food. Alright. Now I promise you that I promise you that this question would be hard. I promise you I wouldn’t let you skip it, and you have to give me the reason why for your answer. Now that I’ve built that up and, folks, she’s sitting here shaking. She is terrified of the question.

Scott Cowan [00:42:55]:

Alright. You ready for this?

Lisa [00:42:58]:

Alright. Here it goes. Cake

Scott Cowan [00:43:01]:

or pie, and why?

Lisa [00:43:07]:

Neither? I I hate cake, and I hate pie. Cheesesteak? Does cheesecake count? No. Go on. Cheesecake.

Scott Cowan [00:43:21]:

You hate cake, and you hate pie.

Lisa [00:43:25]:

Yeah.

Scott Cowan [00:43:25]:

You are the first person, a third first on the show. Do you no. People people are very so it’s so funny to watch people, and they sometimes it’s like saying, you know, you have to give me you’re gonna cut off a hand left or right. Like, oh, you know, I can’t decide. Then other people are like cake. Other people are like pie, and everybody else is wrong. You’re saying both are wrong. True.

Lisa [00:43:54]:

My mom would make There’s no wrong

Scott Cowan [00:43:56]:

answer here. But Yeah. But why? Why don’t you like cake or pie? What is it?

Lisa [00:44:03]:

Yeah. Frosting is disgusting, unless it’s like a ganache or something, except my mom. My mom used to decorate cakes, and she’d make this, like, this amazing buttercream cheese frosting or something. So I would take a few snacks of that. But I remember her making birthday cakes for me, and I just try the the little bit of the frosting and all everybody else would eat the cake.

Scott Cowan [00:44:29]:

So even even as a kid, you didn’t, like okay. What about pie? What’s what’s wrong with pie? And there’s not a lot of answers here, by the way. I’m just Yeah. Just curious.

Lisa [00:44:37]:

No. No. No. Well, first of all, I’m not a huge sweets person, so that makes it easy. Yeah. So it has to be really good for me to want to eat a sweet, and most pies just don’t fall into that category. Okay. Fair.

Lisa [00:44:56]:

Fair.

Scott Cowan [00:44:57]:

But you did say cheesecake. So Yeah. What type of cheesecake do you like?

Lisa [00:45:02]:

I like just the plain or even the chocolate cheesecake Okay. Is good. So chocolate mousse is my other my other weakness. But, yeah.

Scott Cowan [00:45:16]:

But but you’re not okay. That’s interesting. It’s so funny to me. Everybody’s nobody has said neither. That’s that’s actually I wasn’t prepared. I was not prepared for that. You you got me on that one. Okay.

Scott Cowan [00:45:31]:

What didn’t we talk about that we should have? You know? I wanna kinda recap. You’ve got 3 classes coming up. Now if you’re listening to this after that, you should go visit your website, which we’re gonna put a link in the show notes to your website. And I’ll put a link to your Instagram and your Facebook as well so that people can can do that. And it’s really easy. It’s lisamayesphotography.com. So you can just you know, that’s easy. But

Lisa [00:45:56]:

Yeah. Side note. I really need to fix that and update it. It’s been a while, so I apologize in advance. But

Scott Cowan [00:46:04]:

What websites are we don’t wanna talk about websites right now. I’m going I’m going through some growing pains myself.

Lisa [00:46:12]:

Growing pains. Yes.

Scott Cowan [00:46:14]:

Is there anything we didn’t talk about that you think we should we should discuss?

Lisa [00:46:21]:

I guess it would be I would just love to encourage people, to get in their cars and just go and see. I’ve lived in Washington State my entire life.

Scott Cowan [00:46:34]:

Okay.

Lisa [00:46:35]:

And it’s only been the last 12 years or so that I’ve even started to get to explore it. And I have seen we live in an amazing state and we just do. Not that I wanna tell everybody that because, you know

Scott Cowan [00:46:55]:

It rains all the time. It just

Lisa [00:46:56]:

it rains all the time. Exactly. But just go and and get on the road, jump on a ferry, day trips. You don’t have to do overnight trips.

Scott Cowan [00:47:09]:

Mhmm.

Lisa [00:47:09]:

Just go to places you’ve never been before and and just experience.

Scott Cowan [00:47:16]:

So I I yeah. You could I couldn’t say it any better. But now now I wanna ask a question that normally would come up at the beginning of the show is so you just said you’ve you’ve lived here your entire life. As a kid, where’d you grow up? Whereabouts in Washington did you grow up?

Lisa [00:47:30]:

Shoreline. Just north of Seattle.

Scott Cowan [00:47:32]:

So okay. And, did you go to college?

Lisa [00:47:38]:

Edmonds Community.

Scott Cowan [00:47:39]:

Edmonds Community College. Okay. So you stayed have you just stayed kind of around the Seattle, Shoreline, King County, Snohomish County area your entire life?

Lisa [00:47:47]:

Yep. Yep. K.

Scott Cowan [00:47:50]:

You never you never ventured to anywhere out to live outside?

Lisa [00:47:54]:

Nope. Nope. And I don’t ever want to. We you know, I I wanna traffic with

Scott Cowan [00:48:00]:

you you you Yeah. At some point, the traffic might make you wanna change your mind. It it it made me change my mind.

Lisa [00:48:05]:

Yeah. Well, thankfully, I don’t have to commute or anything. So

Scott Cowan [00:48:08]:

Well, that’s true. I mean, any

Lisa [00:48:10]:

kind of alright.

Scott Cowan [00:48:11]:

A a a never ending unique view, if you will. It’s constantly changing and, you know, running or something. I do have a question about boat boat living and your specific setup. What’s it like living on a boat during winter when it’s and this is my interpretation of of Seattle. Mhmm. It’s gray from about October 20th to September 30th. It just seems like that to me. I’m I’m kidding.

Scott Cowan [00:48:46]:

But it does it does seem like the the gray season lingers in Western Washington. But what’s it like living on a boat during the, quote, unquote, winter months in Seattle?

Lisa [00:49:03]:

I don’t mind at all. There are, you know, back to the there are a few sacrifices that we make to do it, to be aboard. But, so it can be cold and wet. So but we do have heaters. The biggest thing for us is we have dehumidifiers running. We have 3 dehumidifiers running in our 42 foot boat. So keeping the dampness down keeps the boat warmer, hint, even if you’re on on land, dehumidifiers are amazing to stay warmer in the winter. And then I’ll be wearing a wool cap and 3 layers and, you know, throughout the day, and sometimes I even have to sleep in a hat.

Lisa [00:49:50]:

But but it’s such a small, small price to pay for Right. For living aboard. So but some people just it doesn’t they like the creature comforts of home and

Scott Cowan [00:50:03]:

Sure.

Lisa [00:50:05]:

Well, being on land. Right.

Scott Cowan [00:50:07]:

Alright. So in your in your last article about autumn in on on our site, you did say autumn was your favorite season. That was

Lisa [00:50:14]:

something you

Scott Cowan [00:50:15]:

you something you put into words. Yes. How about what’s your favorite season to be on the boat?

Lisa [00:50:24]:

All of them. I just I truly love being here.

Scott Cowan [00:50:28]:

Okay.

Lisa [00:50:29]:

So, yeah, each each season brings something cool. Mhmm. So, yeah, it might

Scott Cowan [00:50:37]:

be cool about being cold and damp on a boat during winter? I mean, what what is it about and I’m teasing with that. But what is it about winter that you find cool on the boat?

Lisa [00:50:48]:

On clear days, the sunsets are fantastic. Beautiful skies. K. Yeah. So, like yeah. Everything February brings some amazing, weather, I think, and just makes everything beautiful. And did that answer your question?

Scott Cowan [00:51:16]:

It does. No. And and once again, there’s no there’s no wrong answers here. It’s just more like what’s your opinion and, you know, everyone, you know, should express their opinions without, you know, being, you know, critique. If I’m asking your opinion, I shouldn’t critique it. I I think it’s interesting because to me about what I perceive a boat, to live on a boat. First off, I’m 64. I don’t I think I would feel very claustrophobic.

Scott Cowan [00:51:41]:

Yeah. Unless it was a very big boat.

Lisa [00:51:43]:

Right.

Scott Cowan [00:51:45]:

I think for me personally, I would feel claustrophobic. My my father served in the Korean War on the USS Iowa. And I took him down. The Iowa is docked in Long Beach, California, and you can take tours on it. Mhmm. And I don’t remember exactly how old my father was. Late seventies, early eighties at the time that I took him to it. Right? I watched the most bizarre transformation possible as this I’ll say he’s 80.

Scott Cowan [00:52:16]:

80 year old man became a 22 year old sailor simply by walking up the the the gang ramp to the boat, to the ship, and he was going up and down those silly, steep, narrow ladders Yeah. And ducking through the port holes as you go through from section to section. And his I would have been in my fifties at that time. Overweight son knocked his head on. But it was so funny to watch this my dad turned into a kid again. It was so cool. But even on the USS Iowa, I was feeling pretty claustrophobic. So it’d have to be a really big ship.

Lisa [00:52:54]:

A really big ship. The height

Scott Cowan [00:52:55]:

for me. It’s it’s it’s the it’s it’s I don’t wanna duck and and feel like I have to. So to me, living on a boat, personally, if I was 510, I might love it. It’s the same thing with an RV. I’d like to get an RV, but standing up in them, like a sprinter van, I can’t stand up. My head hits the ceiling. I have to duck. Wow.

Scott Cowan [00:53:15]:

It does Yeah. Doesn’t work. But I’m intrigued by people that live on them full time because to me, they do seem like colder, damper times would amplify that that situation. Yeah. But you’re telling me you’ve got dehumidifiers running. You’ve got you’ve got heaters going. Yes. You might sleep in a hat once in a while, but move to Wenatchee, you’ll sleep in a hat in your house.

Scott Cowan [00:53:40]:

So it’s okay. You know what I’m saying? You know?

Lisa [00:53:41]:

Sure. We do.

Scott Cowan [00:53:43]:

So I think it’s pretty cool that you guys are are doing this. I think it’s a, a really interesting, lifestyle. And you is your do you do your photo editing on the boat? Are you do you work on the boat?

Lisa [00:53:57]:

I do.

Scott Cowan [00:53:58]:

Does your husband work on the boat, or does he go to work elsewhere?

Lisa [00:54:04]:

He does both. So he does

Scott Cowan [00:54:07]:

both.

Lisa [00:54:08]:

He does work aboard sometimes, but he also has a rental office space in town. So So you can kick him

Scott Cowan [00:54:17]:

out when you need a little bit of space.

Lisa [00:54:19]:

Yeah. He’s usually the one I need to get off the boat, and and he’ll go in.

Scott Cowan [00:54:25]:

So But you but you love it. Alright. So we got 3 workshops coming up. I I want everybody to if you’re if you’re thinking about improving your photography, I I think they should take a look at these. You intend on having more moving forward. So no matter when somebody’s listening to this, go take a look at your website, follow you on Facebook because you do a really nice job on your photography page on Facebook.

Lisa [00:54:47]:

Thank you.

Scott Cowan [00:54:48]:

And then, you know, thank you. And thank you, you know, publicly, thank you for writing for us. Really appreciate that. We hope you’ll continue to, provide content with us.

Lisa [00:54:57]:

Oh, definitely.

Scott Cowan [00:54:58]:

That tree at the Kubota Gardens is honestly, when I saw that image, I thought it was well, if I say this and I offend you, I really don’t mean to. But I almost thought, had I not had you not sent it to me Yeah. I it had I just seen it online, I really would have thought it was AI.

Lisa [00:55:18]:

Thank you.

Scott Cowan [00:55:19]:

There’s something about it, The composition of it, the color, the vibrancy of it, it’s it’s a spectacular image of a really, really amazing looking tree.

Lisa [00:55:31]:

Thank you.

Scott Cowan [00:55:31]:

So I I love it.

Lisa [00:55:33]:

All of a all of a sudden, I feel like I’ve arrived. You’re the 2nd person to to call me out with AI. And I I took some Aurora photos, Royalis photos last, last week, week before. And, you know, somebody called me out going, this is fake. This is AI. This never happened. I’m like, I appreciate that. It’s like you think it’s so awesome that it’s AI.

Lisa [00:55:57]:

So if you thought my tree looked like AI, I guess that’s pretty awesome too.

Scott Cowan [00:56:04]:

And, you know, I think I’m gonna put this out there. We’re not gonna talk about it. You know, I think I wish we would have talked about the Aurora Borealis photos because I I I gotta believe there’s some good techniques to use to capture those images.

Lisa [00:56:19]:

Oh, definitely.

Scott Cowan [00:56:20]:

We should talk about those at another time. How about that? Okay. Yeah. Well, Lisa, thank you. I’m gonna put show notes. In the show notes, we’re gonna put links to everything. But Lisa Mize Photography, what is your Facebook? It’s Lisa Mize Photography on Facebook as well. Correct?

Lisa [00:56:36]:

It is. Correct.

Scott Cowan [00:56:37]:

I’m not my daughter doesn’t allow me to go on Instagram. It’s the words okay, boomer. I’m not allowed to go there. So what’s what’s the Instagram, handle?

Lisa [00:56:46]:

I have 2. I have Lisa Mai’s photography is for my portraits, and then Lisa Mai’s landscape photography is all my landscapes.

Scott Cowan [00:56:55]:

Okay. Well, we’ll put links

Lisa [00:56:57]:

to both.

Scott Cowan [00:56:58]:

We’ll put both of those there. Thank you for sitting down with me. What’s amazing to me is that, yes, I heard the waves hit the boat, but your your boat your picture behind you, the the the image that I’m looking at hasn’t moved at all. It’s like I couldn’t tell you were on a boat. There seems to be no movement at all.

Lisa [00:57:17]:

So Yeah. No. Just that one wake, still. So

Scott Cowan [00:57:21]:

well, thanks so much.

Lisa [00:57:23]:

Thank you.